From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12632C433DB for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 18:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from merlin.infradead.org (merlin.infradead.org [205.233.59.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FE3D64EC0 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 18:38:55 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 9FE3D64EC0 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=linuxfoundation.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Cc:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post:List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=dLETYeYE/iSRnBskayujqMl0PcP9/IkhD2COEPmaY3o=; b=yrZT2ePurwqhbg1Tydg52hJcd JZH/56MakJsRltuuI+ja4AhRsuhKzKH2GDswS53PaYRWzl24gEX3YxClvt/hv07FGJesiLYwZWi/u Q5XyDv6jFPecw+gSkl3YE2MUMdDbrvZwyLOtRU/kC7ovAqDWPdlORntahyV+HW5GVEmTs3zgsqk6t 8YBZ68+svRZofWpLwdigPW8uClpMHQcNBsXiIHWw/dBE93Er/lsU040G4Bch/lzMBsr93ykzSvtQ8 ErPwWC3NmAcV+dkeg7BVzb8pI5EQ2xpWYbn1v2p65D0CPZi2t2O0G6mLjREWSF0gsDpUCaizpMPUk CvcrNXfxA==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=merlin.infradead.org) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1lCoAE-0007lG-5t; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 18:36:34 +0000 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1lCoAB-0007ke-Ik for linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 18:36:32 +0000 Received: by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61F3364EB3; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 18:36:29 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1613673390; bh=cx/G9CiNCVf5iqa5R0DmzapVS1vER9219WbO5MMjo7o=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=t7WH7zn6oIgUXC5no7v4N1XikNFP1r1AY/X/DXCM5iEC6fI81qvm8wLU+1Xk4rkmd TSARXU+U8k45wk/pz3hxN4HtC+f6ULD6ZRDrenRvGvunDSlhpX9/N3Xebyg/YEprhr lrqaxU8nEeFhHdbVOmA1fJUaNX02wty+DN/S05GY= Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 19:36:27 +0100 From: Greg Kroah-Hartman To: Willy Tarreau Subject: Re: 5.10 LTS Kernel: 2 or 6 years? Message-ID: References: <8cf503db-ac4c-a546-13c0-aac6da5c073b@broadcom.com> <20210218165104.GC2013@sasha-vm> <00b9e2fb-d818-58d6-edae-4dbd6aa814f7@gmail.com> <20210218182050.GB15217@1wt.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210218182050.GB15217@1wt.eu> X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20210218_133631_713240_B4413800 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 18.23 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Sasha Levin , Florian Fainelli , Scott Branden , LKML , BCM Kernel Feedback , Linux ARM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 07:20:50PM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 06:53:56PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 09:21:13AM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote: > > > As a company, we are most likely shooting ourselves in the foot by not > > > having a point of coordination with the Linux Foundation and key people > > > like you, Greg and other participants in the stable kernel. > > > > What does the LF have to do with this? > > > > We are here, on the mailing lists, working with everyone. Just test the > > -rc releases we make and let us know if they work or not for you, it's > > not a lot of "coordination" needed at all. > > > > Otherwise, if no one is saying that they are going to need these for 6 > > years and are willing to use it in their project (i.e. and test it), > > there's no need for us to maintain it for that long, right? > > Greg, please remember I expressed I really need them for slightly more than > 3 years (say 3.5-4) :-) I'm fine with helping a bit more as time permits if > this saves me from having to take over these kernels after you, like in the > past, but I cannot engage on the regularity of my availability. Ok, great! That's one person/company saying they can help out (along with what CIP has been stating.) What about others? Broadcom started this conversation, odd that they don't seem to want to help out :) thanks, greg k-h _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel