From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D0BC433E0 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 08:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from merlin.infradead.org (merlin.infradead.org [205.233.59.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8254D64E4B for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 08:32:03 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 8254D64E4B Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=linuxfoundation.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Cc:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post:List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=RiuhWptOmCiLQ1LXI9+TioHpfoLLTipI1/e8pJv7TMs=; b=ASUkAhrqhuPsSjVJF67v82z2D GuFSr2UuPQu0Vhjqeuoc7tTe/l9iMX/RcooZ+Q7I1zBYValfJ9IGkEUtCuA0dok7TeEBmipjR+Ics mBjI2oWNJS89zeIsCy2PA4pwuWFMmRtsGxrc3QO3JrrjxbqidHizTN5vd/4fKGzuUYxBd+LwV8gRI Vxm9JQykJvLssR4a2SPxqsZ8MRReC/Nx5dIph7cxCmpeL5d7IkkzCvDmTYDCYzjWqxYgkmQzqQxZ+ +aQHAwYxDAHl8aWm/kKm5vio8OMURP7BDJuIIRjflhHM+oitLCthXpKvKfW9+x1Awzt5fSuAH3Qrx SehwO9h0Q==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=merlin.infradead.org) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1lD1BD-0007XD-EJ; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 08:30:27 +0000 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1lD1B8-0007Wl-VW for linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 08:30:24 +0000 Received: by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 172AB64D5D; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 08:30:20 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1613723421; bh=4uu0gNzwTseegLPeh2iXdcKxfYm/OeqwPyRxyV58Igs=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=lg9TqfHKoH+Lw4jL/Dxn/rOOxR+cKsbbp8S9CUYXqgn2P2M05FaK9BBZ39tvLIWS9 B2rR2VT2Cy715nJpZdTreYumUVjtlFdLqFEUJkpWcdrCmAK5OD2hyExu13/nn3pgfO Ab96tgGjXp4xwR4LiFY12ql9xIlqMt3YpXkaI1rs= Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 09:30:18 +0100 From: Greg Kroah-Hartman To: Pavel Machek Subject: Re: 5.10 LTS Kernel: 2 or 6 years? Message-ID: References: <20210218205534.GA10201@duo.ucw.cz> <202102182343.36276.linux@zary.sk> <20210219080027.GA12434@amd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210219080027.GA12434@amd> X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20210219_033023_383479_E9087B0F X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 16.75 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Jari Ruusu , Scott Branden , Ondrej Zary , LKML , BCM Kernel Feedback , Willy Tarreau , Linux ARM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 09:00:27AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > > > > For me > > > > > only way to get properly working WiFi on my laptop computer is to > > > > > compile that Intel out-of-tree version. Sad, but true. > > > > > > > > Why use 4.19.y on a laptop in the firstplace? That feels very wrong and > > > > is not the recommended thing to use the LTS kernels for. > > > > > > Well, that's actually what distributions are doing, for example Debian > > > 10.8 is on 4.19... > > > > There's 5.10 in buster-backports. That's probably the easiest way to get support for new HW. > > > > I can compile my own kernel, too. But if you go up the thread, it is > about iwlwifi becoming broken in 4.19, and Greg saying it is wrong > to put -stable on laptop. And -stable on laptop is norm, not the > exception. If distros want to "camp out" on an old kernel version, that's fine, as I describe in: http://www.kroah.com/log/blog/2018/08/24/what-stable-kernel-should-i-use/ many years ago. But for someone using a device where they want to use "new" hardware, that was made _after_ the kernel version was released, that's just someone who needs to pick a better distro :) thanks, greg k-h _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel