From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6752C433E0 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 15:33:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from merlin.infradead.org (merlin.infradead.org [205.233.59.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4916564E15 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 15:33:18 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 4916564E15 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=linuxfoundation.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Cc:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post:List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=mM+0Z4fVw7ufSvOFllmRhVRLVAoUsTh8yMm0Fqrafh4=; b=K4eJr0J2Gs5Itg7KrwdBEKkji LIATnRMz9kcj34eo5OR3mknEud0zXSK0otbmUFmNVoCDPUYXaH4rHihtUk1dL6c6A/Eq0mfdLI3xi yKeJf2K4bwlPjcN6F6CDbgPNh2+g9Nf/XylSDyPmW+sNSwXdOSnzloNXIRf2XZsQz6myUWTfWRfUf gvj81pUUsYU4gV9eoVMLLvJRxPjISBK3WWdi54JVmr4urq18KWFx0H6uK3w1V7USUDzgGoAtIIRqS i15xqkWaFRyZRDERgEe233CWOlKIG1hxQYFo28C2jrZMxVsU/600exH+u2oWaPsXQ8uH0NXRJCAlb 7uFT7ToPg==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=merlin.infradead.org) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1lEDBZ-0003fr-TB; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 15:31:45 +0000 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1lEDBO-0003ch-MR for linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 15:31:35 +0000 Received: by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B53064EC3; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 15:31:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1614007894; bh=O5oVzXeXDcQjdSLsH3D0UHdDHpNIqdFtFj8TS0MdwGU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=Fpt8P6UnaBTUcspIelbCF3zsXvfFuavDZmasUK6CVpmHCZYM2fkHM5FxIttitqStG tXSBSBo3rmImvopkJDQaO9eA+Pr8tGiomW7+W5ufzCJHzY6D9yN0U9f1FkAUCRuw0j sj39KPcN3xx67aAgMZyf36nIq0w85O+xVArkmD7U= Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 15:24:30 +0100 From: Greg Kroah-Hartman To: Nishanth Aravamudan Subject: Re: 5.10 LTS Kernel: 2 or 6 years? Message-ID: References: <20210222140052.GA1520276@breakout> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210222140052.GA1520276@breakout> X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20210222_103134_853114_8939AD71 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 26.40 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Scott Branden , pmccormick@digitalocean.com, LKML , BCM Kernel Feedback , Linux ARM , cgardner@digitalocean.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 08:00:52AM -0600, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote: > Hi Greg, > > On 26.01.2021 [08:29:25 +0100], Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 11:55:11AM -0800, Scott Branden wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > The 5.10 LTS kernel being officially LTS supported for 2 years > > > presents a problem: why would anyone select a 5.10 kernel with 2 > > > year LTS when 5.4 kernel has a 6 year LTS. > > > > > > If 5.10 is "actually" going to be supported for 6 years it would be > > > quite valuable to make such a declaration. > > > https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html > > > > Why? What would that change? > > > > Ok, seriously, this happens every year, and every year we go through > > the same thing, it's not like this is somehow new, right? > > > > I want to see companies _using_ the kernel, and most importantly, > > _updating_ their devices with it, to know if it is worth to keep > > around for longer than 2 years. I also, hopefully, want to see how > > those companies will help me out in the testing and maintenance of > > that kernel version in order to make supporting it for 6 years > > actually possible. > > > > So, are you planning on using 5.10? Will you will be willing to help > > out in testing the -rc releases I make to let me know if there are any > > problems, and to help in pointing out and backporting any specific > > patches that your platforms need for that kernel release? > > > > When I get this kind of promises and support from companies, then I am > > glad to bump up the length of the kernel support from 2 to 6 years, > > and I mark it on the web site. Traditionally this happens in > > Febuary/March once I hear from enough companies. Can I count on your > > support in this endeavor? > > I am very sorry for the long delay on my end (I had privately e-mailed > Greg on January 28) -- DigitalOcean also intends to provide feedback and > testing on the 5.10 series. We intend to use it as the basis for our > next-next kernel and are very invested in ensuring the stability and > performance of the kernel. Great! If you need me to add your cc: to the -rc release announcements so that you have an easy email to respond to, just let me know and I can do so. Any ideas when the testing will start happening? There's a 5.10-rc release out there right now if you want to start today :) thanks, greg k-h _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel