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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/7] static_call: get rid of static_call_cond()
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 19:38:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YYrAHMy8xmPXj4ql@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211109164549.1724710-2-ardb@kernel.org>

On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 05:45:43PM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> The main reason for the existence of static_call_cond() seems to be that
> in theory, when using the generic implementation of static calls, it may
> be possible for a compiler to elide the indirect call entirely if the
> target is NULL, while still guaranteeing that all side effects of
> argument evaluation occur as expected.
> 
> This is rather optimistic: as documented by an existing code comment,
> both GCC and Clang (version 10) get this wrong, and even if they ever
> get it right, this is far too subtle to rely on for a code path that is
> expected to be used only by the 'remaining' architectures once all the
> best supported ones implement either the out-of-line or inline optimized
> variety of static calls.
> 
> Given that having static_call_cond() clutters up the API, and puts the
> burden on the caller to go and check what kind of static call they are
> dealing with, let's just get rid of the distinction.

No, static_call_cond() signifies the function can be NULL. Both gcc and
clang generate correct (but wildly ineffecient) code for this. Without
static_call_cond() the generic implementation will do a NULL deref.

That is, static_call_cond() does properly encapuslate:

	func = READ_ONCE(key.func);
	if (func)
		func(ARGS);

You can't take that out.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-09 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-09 16:45 [RFC PATCH 0/7] static call updates Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-09 16:45 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] static_call: get rid of static_call_cond() Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-09 18:38   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2021-11-09 18:41     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-09 19:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-09 19:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-09 16:45 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] static_call: deal with unexported keys without cluttering up the API Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-09 18:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-09 18:53     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-09 19:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-09 16:45 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] static_call: use helper to access non-exported key Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-09 18:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-09 18:54     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-09 19:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-09 19:45         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-09 16:45 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] static_call: fix broken static_call_query() for non-exported keys Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-09 18:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-09 16:45 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] static_call: use non-function types to refer to the trampolines Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-09 16:45 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] static_call: rename EXPORT_ macros to be more self-explanatory Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-09 19:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-09 19:03     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-09 16:45 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] static_call: add generic support for non-exported keys Ard Biesheuvel

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