From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
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Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 8/9] mm: multigenerational lru: user interface
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 01:35:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yd6S6Js1W4AnFFmv@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YdwKB3SfF7hkB9Xv@kernel.org>
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 12:27:19PM +0200, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 01:22:27PM -0700, Yu Zhao wrote:
> > Add /sys/kernel/mm/lru_gen/enabled as a runtime kill switch.
> >
> > Add /sys/kernel/mm/lru_gen/min_ttl_ms for thrashing prevention.
> > Compared with the size-based approach, e.g., [1], this time-based
> > approach has the following advantages:
> > 1) It's easier to configure because it's agnostic to applications and
> > memory sizes.
> > 2) It's more reliable because it's directly wired to the OOM killer.
> >
> > Add /sys/kernel/debug/lru_gen for working set estimation and proactive
> > reclaim. Compared with the page table-based approach and the PFN-based
> > approach, e.g., mm/damon/[vp]addr.c, this lruvec-based approach has
> > the following advantages:
> > 1) It offers better choices because it's aware of memcgs, NUMA nodes,
> > shared mappings and unmapped page cache.
> > 2) It's more scalable because it's O(nr_hot_evictable_pages), whereas
> > the PFN-based approach is O(nr_total_pages).
> >
> > Add /sys/kernel/debug/lru_gen_full for debugging.
> >
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20211130201652.2218636d@mail.inbox.lv/
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
> > Tested-by: Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru>
> > ---
> > Documentation/vm/index.rst | 1 +
> > Documentation/vm/multigen_lru.rst | 62 +++++
>
> The description of user visible interfaces should go to
> Documentation/admin-guide/mm
>
> Documentation/vm/multigen_lru.rst should have contained design description
> and the implementation details and it would be great to actually have such
> document.
Will do, thanks.
> > include/linux/nodemask.h | 1 +
> > mm/vmscan.c | 415 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 4 files changed, 479 insertions(+)
> > create mode 100644 Documentation/vm/multigen_lru.rst
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/vm/index.rst b/Documentation/vm/index.rst
> > index 6f5ffef4b716..f25e755b4ff4 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/vm/index.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/vm/index.rst
> > @@ -38,3 +38,4 @@ algorithms. If you are looking for advice on simply allocating memory, see the
> > unevictable-lru
> > z3fold
> > zsmalloc
> > + multigen_lru
> > diff --git a/Documentation/vm/multigen_lru.rst b/Documentation/vm/multigen_lru.rst
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..6f9e0181348b
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/Documentation/vm/multigen_lru.rst
> > @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@
> > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> > +
> > +=====================
> > +Multigenerational LRU
> > +=====================
> > +
> > +Quick start
> > +===========
> > +Runtime configurations
> > +----------------------
> > +:Required: Write ``1`` to ``/sys/kernel/mm/lru_gen/enable`` if the
> > + feature wasn't enabled by default.
>
> Required for what? This sentence seem to lack context. Maybe add an
> overview what is Multigenerational LRU so that users will have an idea what
> these knobs control.
Apparently I left an important part of this quick start in the next
patch, where Kconfig options are added. I'm wonder whether I should
squash the next patch into this one.
I always separate Kconfig changes and leave them in the last patch
because it gives me peace of mind knowing it'll never give any auto
bisectors a hard time.
But I saw people not following this practice, and I'm also tempted to
do so. Can anybody remind me whether it's considered a bad practice to
have code changes and Kconfig changes in the same patch?
> > +
> > +Recipes
> > +=======
>
> Some more context here will be also helpful.
Will do.
> > +Personal computers
> > +------------------
> > +:Thrashing prevention: Write ``N`` to
> > + ``/sys/kernel/mm/lru_gen/min_ttl_ms`` to prevent the working set of
> > + ``N`` milliseconds from getting evicted. The OOM killer is invoked if
> > + this working set can't be kept in memory. Based on the average human
> > + detectable lag (~100ms), ``N=1000`` usually eliminates intolerable
> > + lags due to thrashing. Larger values like ``N=3000`` make lags less
> > + noticeable at the cost of more OOM kills.
> > +
> > +Data centers
> > +------------
> > +:Debugfs interface: ``/sys/kernel/debug/lru_gen`` has the following
> > + format:
> > + ::
> > +
> > + memcg memcg_id memcg_path
> > + node node_id
> > + min_gen birth_time anon_size file_size
> > + ...
> > + max_gen birth_time anon_size file_size
> > +
> > + ``min_gen`` is the oldest generation number and ``max_gen`` is the
> > + youngest generation number. ``birth_time`` is in milliseconds.
> > + ``anon_size`` and ``file_size`` are in pages.
>
> And what does oldest and youngest generations mean from the user
> perspective?
Good question. Will add more details in the next spin.
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Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-04 20:22 [PATCH v6 0/9] Multigenerational LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 1/9] mm: x86, arm64: add arch_has_hw_pte_young() Yu Zhao
2022-01-05 10:45 ` Will Deacon
2022-01-05 20:47 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-06 10:30 ` Will Deacon
2022-01-07 7:25 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-11 14:19 ` Will Deacon
2022-01-11 22:27 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 2/9] mm: x86: add CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_NONLEAF_PMD_YOUNG Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 21:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 3/9] mm/vmscan.c: refactor shrink_node() Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 4/9] mm: multigenerational lru: groundwork Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 21:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-11 8:16 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-01-12 2:16 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 5/9] mm: multigenerational lru: mm_struct list Yu Zhao
2022-01-07 9:06 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-08 0:19 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 15:21 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-12 8:08 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 6/9] mm: multigenerational lru: aging Yu Zhao
2022-01-06 16:06 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-06 21:27 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-07 8:43 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-07 21:12 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-06 16:12 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-06 21:41 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-07 8:55 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-07 9:00 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10 3:58 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 14:37 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-13 9:43 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-13 12:02 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-19 6:31 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-19 9:44 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10 15:01 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10 16:01 ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-01-10 16:25 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-11 23:16 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-12 10:28 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-13 9:25 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-07 13:11 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-07 23:36 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 15:35 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-11 1:18 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-11 9:00 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <1641900108.61dd684cb0e59@mail.inbox.lv>
2022-01-11 12:15 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-13 17:00 ` Alexey Avramov
2022-01-11 14:22 ` Alexey Avramov
2022-01-07 14:44 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10 4:47 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 10:54 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-19 7:04 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-19 9:42 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-23 21:28 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-24 14:01 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10 16:57 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-12 1:01 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-12 10:17 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-12 23:43 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-13 11:57 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-23 21:40 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 7/9] mm: multigenerational lru: eviction Yu Zhao
2022-01-11 10:37 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-01-12 8:05 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 8/9] mm: multigenerational lru: user interface Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 10:27 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-01-12 8:35 ` Yu Zhao [this message]
2022-01-12 10:31 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-12 15:45 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-01-13 9:47 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-13 10:31 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-01-13 23:02 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-14 5:20 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-01-14 6:50 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 9/9] mm: multigenerational lru: Kconfig Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 21:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-04 20:30 ` [PATCH v6 0/9] Multigenerational LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 21:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-05 21:12 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-07 9:38 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-07 18:45 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 15:39 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10 22:04 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 22:46 ` Jesse Barnes
2022-01-11 1:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-11 10:40 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-11 8:41 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-11 8:53 ` Holger Hoffstätte
2022-01-11 16:04 ` Shuang Zhai
2022-01-12 1:46 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2022-01-12 6:07 ` Sofia Trinh
2022-01-18 9:21 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-18 9:36 ` Donald Carr
2022-01-19 20:19 ` Steven Barrett
2022-01-19 22:25 ` Brian Geffon
2022-01-05 2:44 ` Shuang Zhai
2022-01-05 8:55 ` SeongJae Park
2022-01-05 10:53 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-05 11:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-05 11:25 ` SeongJae Park
2022-01-05 21:06 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 14:49 ` Alexey Avramov
2022-01-11 10:24 ` Alexey Avramov
2022-01-12 20:56 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-01-13 8:59 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-23 5:43 ` Barry Song
2022-01-25 6:48 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-28 8:54 ` Barry Song
2022-02-08 9:16 ` Yu Zhao
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