From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49493C43334 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:07:38 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post: List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:References: Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: List-Owner; bh=8o2s7GIhcS3KlaD0Lli9nfXiAgkBuS3dpj0+I19gpOk=; b=IA6qU0e7CSTOj0 JQ7R5MCf6egqHZnXuXpW5HPBgCLaKZcd25sTFl1bGdL209bhzkQHa5dYkYEdpgSJBCs+t7u9S0Aaf nQSYfEhBztzlRtQW+Q0YVL49flooCj+5jFNSQm5eDga+3qy6IiOmmn2E59d7RGp8wOUCWN9aKUKRg 5Ql5vjx9ic9ptf3t4srHBeZKjcrx/4mmAcZ0fJSMcv8hnrm/d4H8X7ERyOf0OF0Lh1FQgsKV045Fv gxa71Usco5MyC9qMT1iQPBD/jtAa9OHDjh9CYpJ0H8rmpZRRCiGK4r+ZatQqXAwUK/8OzCrTJPVzV Q8R9Z0CSQjrQ0wp9WLxg==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=bombadil.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1o3iGo-006g4T-Na; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:06:34 +0000 Received: from pandora.armlinux.org.uk ([2001:4d48:ad52:32c8:5054:ff:fe00:142]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1o3iGl-006g2u-Q2 for linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:06:33 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=armlinux.org.uk; s=pandora-2019; h=Sender:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=R32NRykq+VRA5ltf4fF9mf1PLqgrIg2/jM6uI2d0+zU=; b=TvB7AMPGUmFIXYPAKGRDZvkhtW //HZ9no7vhwJ+cxZJtLmAICHYm3v1RAWuqpRiopGz1Luno1m5RDixhv94I03GfQ3aA7ykCzssAobo p8E9T2IXBsUPcF4dLwzZ1S679cLUoVI4AnwewLI48d/A3PC4FsfDUQdpbJDyo5vswDo8EtEF+lqOj 1zvj3f2XLj119ksHsttrPKdXKv7+qKsQf7I1L2ZOCSjDDlEPpfxpf4i7XZ+yWyugUWYFnJCjB0zv4 CnZJ4Mcof5ISQTgOar9pRj/Qjp+uRU8QEUYW29pQuWNG9WFkxRJ+WuLdAjDsKqLcyyDs1WEESveyc 3FXTB2uw==; Received: from shell.armlinux.org.uk ([fd8f:7570:feb6:1:5054:ff:fe00:4ec]:32970) by pandora.armlinux.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1o3iGe-0002gx-2V; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:06:23 +0100 Received: from linux by shell.armlinux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1o3iGb-0006KJ-JN; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:06:21 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:06:21 +0100 From: "Russell King (Oracle)" To: Catalin Marinas Cc: Andre Mueller , Will Deacon , "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" Subject: Re: [External] : Re: [PATCH] Documentation/arm64: update memory layout table. Message-ID: References: <20220621081651.61755-1-am@emlix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20220621_110631_880727_FBD6C642 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 22.58 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 06:25:17PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 02:47:30PM +0000, Russell King wrote: > > From: Catalin Marinas > > I've found the table particularly useful when wanting to know the > > virtual address space layout, so it does seem to have some value. > > Yes but that's only one of the configurations and it keeps getting out > of sync. We used to print the information at boot until commit > 071929dbdd86 ("arm64: Stop printing the virtual memory layout"). I think > we could bring some of that back, maybe even behind a debug command line > option or config (or expose it via sysfs). We shouldn't print the info > that has security implications like where stext is mapped or anything > randomised, only the rough layout like in the doc. Sounds like a good idea - if there's a way to come up with it programatically, then it's going to have a better chance of remaining accurate. > > (Replying from my work email as that's where it's been sent. Can't do > > anything but top-post, which is why I use my armlinux.org.uk email for > > kernel stuff - thanks Outlook web.) > > As a side-note, Arm uses outlook as well but mutt can connect via IMAP > (if enabled; a bit of a pain with oauth2). For SMTP I use the kernel.org > one since outlook tends to corrupt patches. I've tried neomutt + oauth2 over a few weeks... and with the gpg splatting over the top of neomutt's output and the problems if you don't notice the splatting and respond in time... yea, I gave up with it, it was _way_ more hassle than using Outlook's web interface. It's probably fine if all you're doing is monitoring email and nothing else. I never thought I'd say that Outlook is better than neomutt, but in this instance, Outlook web takes several orders of magnitude less user maintenance than neomutt does. Neomutt + oauth2 is just way too painful, even with the Outlook web quirks such as only supporting top-post replying. I guess that neomutt + oauth2 might be fine if you check email just once a day, but not if you want to monitor email throughout the day. -- RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. 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