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From: Youngmin Nam <youngmin.nam@samsung.com>
To: William McVicker <willmcvicker@google.com>
Cc: "John Stultz" <jstultz@google.com>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Griffin" <peter.griffin@linaro.org>,
	"André Draszik" <andre.draszik@linaro.org>,
	"Tudor Ambarus" <tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Alim Akhtar" <alim.akhtar@samsung.com>,
	"Daniel Lezcano" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Saravana Kannan" <saravanak@google.com>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk@kernel.org>,
	kernel-team@android.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, "Donghoon Yu" <hoony.yu@samsung.com>,
	"Youngmin Nam" <youngmin.nam@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/6] clocksource/drivers/exynos_mct: Don't register as a sched_clock on arm64
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 10:43:46 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z+yWUj5ZLftPrbht@perf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z-wZV3RCXKPzpZGl@google.com>

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Hi Will.

I'm really glad to see our work on Pixel being upstreamed.

On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 09:50:31AM -0700, William McVicker wrote:
> On 03/31/2025, John Stultz wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 4:00 PM 'Will McVicker' via kernel-team
> > <kernel-team@android.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > When using the Exynos MCT as a sched_clock, accessing the timer value
> > > via the MCT register is extremely slow. To improve performance on Arm64
> > > SoCs, use the Arm architected timer instead for timekeeping.
> > 
> > This probably needs some further expansion to explain why we don't
> > want to use it for sched_clock but continue to register the MCT as a
> > clocksource (ie: why not disable MCT entirely?).
> 
> Using the MCT as a sched_clock was originally added for Exynos4 SoCs to improve
> the gettimeofday() syscalls on ChromeOS. For ARM32 this is the best they can do
> without the Arm architected timer. ChromeOS perf data can be found in [1,2]
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-samsung-soc/CAJFHJrrgWGc4XGQB0ysLufAg3Wouz-aYXu97Sy2Kp=HzK+akVQ@mail.gmail.com/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-samsung-soc/CAASgrz2Nr69tpfC8ka9gbs2OvjLEGsvgAj4vBCFxhsamuFum7w@mail.gmail.com/
> 
> I think it's valid to still register the MCT as a clocksource to make it
> available in case someone decides they want to use it, but by default it
> doesn't make sense to use it as the default clocksource on Exynos-based ARM64
> systems with arch_timer support. However, we can't disable the Exynos MCT
> entirely on ARM64 because we need it as the wakeup source for the arch_timer to
> support waking up from the "c2" idle state, which is discussed in [3].
> 
> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20210608154341.10794-1-will@kernel.org/
> 

Exactly right.

> > 
> > > Note, ARM32 SoCs don't have an architectured timer and therefore
> > > will continue to use the MCT timer. Detailed discussion on this topic
> > > can be found at [1].
> > >
> > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/1400188079-21832-1-git-send-email-chirantan@chromium.org/
> > 
> > That's a pretty deep thread (more so with the duplicate messages, as
> > you used the "all" instead of a specific list). It might be good to
> > have a bit more of a summary here in the commit message, so folks
> > don't have to dig too deeply themselves.
> 
> Ah, sorry about the bad link. The above points should be a good summary of that
> conversation with regards to this patch.
> 
> > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Donghoon Yu <hoony.yu@samsung.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Youngmin Nam <youngmin.nam@samsung.com>
> > > [Original commit from https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/gs/+/630817f7080e92c5e0216095ff52f6eb8dd00727
> > > Signed-off-by: Will McVicker <willmcvicker@google.com>
> > > ---
> > >  drivers/clocksource/exynos_mct.c | 5 +++--
> > >  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/clocksource/exynos_mct.c b/drivers/clocksource/exynos_mct.c
> > > index da09f467a6bb..05c50f2f7a7e 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/clocksource/exynos_mct.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/clocksource/exynos_mct.c
> > > @@ -219,12 +219,12 @@ static struct clocksource mct_frc = {
> > >         .resume         = exynos4_frc_resume,
> > >  };
> > >
> > > +#if defined(CONFIG_ARM)
> > 
> > I'd probably suggest adding a comment here explaining why this is kept
> > on ARM and not on AARCH64 as well.
> 
> Sure, I can add my comments above here in v2.
> 
> > 
> > >  static u64 notrace exynos4_read_sched_clock(void)
> > >  {
> > >         return exynos4_read_count_32();
> > >  }
> > >
> > > -#if defined(CONFIG_ARM)
> > >  static struct delay_timer exynos4_delay_timer;
> > >
> > >  static cycles_t exynos4_read_current_timer(void)
> > > @@ -250,12 +250,13 @@ static int __init exynos4_clocksource_init(bool frc_shared)
> > >         exynos4_delay_timer.read_current_timer = &exynos4_read_current_timer;
> > >         exynos4_delay_timer.freq = clk_rate;
> > >         register_current_timer_delay(&exynos4_delay_timer);
> > > +
> > > +       sched_clock_register(exynos4_read_sched_clock, 32, clk_rate);
> > >  #endif
> > >
> > >         if (clocksource_register_hz(&mct_frc, clk_rate))
> > >                 panic("%s: can't register clocksource\n", mct_frc.name);
> > >
> > > -       sched_clock_register(exynos4_read_sched_clock, 32, clk_rate);
> > >
> > >         return 0;
> > 
> > Otherwise, this looks ok to me.
> > 
> > thanks
> > -john
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to review!
> 
> Regards,
> Will
> 

Along with John's comment,
Reviewed-by:: Youngmin Nam <youngmin.nam@samsung.com>

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-02  1:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-31 23:00 [PATCH v1 0/6] Add module support for Arm64 Exynos MCT driver Will McVicker
2025-03-31 23:00 ` [PATCH v1 1/6] of/irq: Export of_irq_count for modules Will McVicker
2025-04-01  2:30   ` Rob Herring
2025-03-31 23:00 ` [PATCH v1 2/6] clocksource/drivers/exynos_mct: Don't register as a sched_clock on arm64 Will McVicker
2025-03-31 23:40   ` John Stultz
2025-04-01 16:50     ` William McVicker
2025-04-02  1:43       ` Youngmin Nam [this message]
2025-03-31 23:00 ` [PATCH v1 3/6] clocksource/drivers/exynos_mct: Set local timer interrupts as percpu Will McVicker
2025-03-31 23:45   ` John Stultz
2025-04-01 16:36     ` William McVicker
2025-04-02  2:32       ` Youngmin Nam
2025-04-02 22:39         ` William McVicker
2025-03-31 23:00 ` [PATCH v1 4/6] arm64: dts: exynos: gs101: Add 'local-timer-stop' to cpuidle nodes Will McVicker
2025-04-02  4:10   ` Youngmin Nam
2025-04-02 21:59     ` William McVicker
2025-04-03  3:59       ` Youngmin Nam
2025-04-03 18:39         ` William McVicker
2025-04-04  0:02           ` Youngmin Nam
2025-03-31 23:00 ` [PATCH v1 5/6] clocksource/drivers/exynos_mct: Add module support Will McVicker
2025-04-01  2:30   ` Rob Herring
2025-04-01 16:27     ` William McVicker
2025-04-01  6:36   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-04-01 16:27     ` William McVicker
2025-04-02  4:27       ` Youngmin Nam
2025-03-31 23:00 ` [PATCH v1 6/6] arm64: exynos: Drop select CLKSRC_EXYNOS_MCT Will McVicker

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