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From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
To: James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	Nikita Kalyazin <kalyazin@amazon.com>,
	Anish Moorthy <amoorthy@google.com>,
	Peter Gonda <pgonda@google.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>, Wei W <wei.w.wang@intel.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 06/13] KVM: arm64: Add support for KVM_MEM_USERFAULT
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:45:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z1JJOfnuKQ9LCHq-@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADrL8HWC7HhYmEBWa+5KeWmyD+iT1zPBJUAUtNyrhH7ZpLXJNQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 03:31:05PM -0800, James Houghton wrote:
> > > @@ -2062,6 +2069,20 @@ void kvm_arch_commit_memory_region(struct kvm *kvm,
> > >                                  enum kvm_mr_change change)
> > >  {
> > >       bool log_dirty_pages = new && new->flags & KVM_MEM_LOG_DIRTY_PAGES;
> > > +     u32 changed_flags = (new ? new->flags : 0) ^ (old ? old->flags : 0);
> > > +
> > > +     /*
> > > +      * If KVM_MEM_USERFAULT changed, drop all the stage-2 mappings so that
> > > +      * we can (1) respect userfault-ness or (2) create block mappings.
> > > +      */
> > > +     if ((changed_flags & KVM_MEM_USERFAULT) && change == KVM_MR_FLAGS_ONLY)
> > > +             kvm_arch_flush_shadow_memslot(kvm, old);
> >
> > I'd strongly prefer that we make (2) a userspace problem and don't
> > eagerly invalidate stage-2 mappings on the USERFAULT -> !USERFAULT
> > change.
> >
> > Having implied user-visible behaviors on ioctls is never good, and for
> > systems without FEAT_S2FWB you might be better off avoiding the unmap in
> > the first place.
> >
> > So, if userspace decides there's a benefit to invalidating the stage-2
> > MMU, it can just delete + recreate the memslot.
> 
> Ok I think that's reasonable. So for USERFAULT -> !USERFAULT, I'll
> just follow the precedent set by dirty logging. For x86 today, we
> collapse the mappings, and for arm64 we do not.
> 
> Is arm64 ever going to support collapsing back to huge mappings after
> dirty logging is disabled?

Patches on list is always a good place to start :)

What I'd expect on FEAT_S2FWB hardware is that invalidating the whole
stage-2 and faulting back in block entries would give the best
experience.

Only in the case of !FWB would a literal table -> block collapse be
beneficial, as the MMU could potentially elide CMOs when remapping. But
that assumes you're starting with a fully-mapped table and there are no
holes that are "out of sync" with the guest.

-- 
Thanks,
Oliver


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-06  0:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-04 19:13 [PATCH v1 00/13] KVM: Introduce KVM Userfault James Houghton
2024-12-04 19:13 ` [PATCH v1 01/13] KVM: Add KVM_MEM_USERFAULT memslot flag and bitmap James Houghton
2024-12-05 11:52   ` kernel test robot
2024-12-05 14:22   ` kernel test robot
2024-12-06 22:46     ` James Houghton
2024-12-04 19:13 ` [PATCH v1 02/13] KVM: Add KVM_MEMORY_EXIT_FLAG_USERFAULT James Houghton
2024-12-04 19:13 ` [PATCH v1 03/13] KVM: Allow late setting of KVM_MEM_USERFAULT on guest_memfd memslot James Houghton
2024-12-04 19:13 ` [PATCH v1 04/13] KVM: Advertise KVM_CAP_USERFAULT in KVM_CHECK_EXTENSION James Houghton
2024-12-04 19:13 ` [PATCH v1 05/13] KVM: x86/mmu: Add support for KVM_MEM_USERFAULT James Houghton
2024-12-04 19:13 ` [PATCH v1 06/13] KVM: arm64: " James Houghton
2024-12-04 23:07   ` Oliver Upton
2024-12-05 23:31     ` James Houghton
2024-12-06  0:45       ` Oliver Upton [this message]
2024-12-04 19:13 ` [PATCH v1 07/13] KVM: selftests: Fix vm_mem_region_set_flags docstring James Houghton
2024-12-04 19:13 ` [PATCH v1 08/13] KVM: selftests: Fix prefault_mem logic James Houghton
2024-12-04 19:13 ` [PATCH v1 09/13] KVM: selftests: Add va_start/end into uffd_desc James Houghton
2024-12-04 19:13 ` [PATCH v1 10/13] KVM: selftests: Add KVM Userfault mode to demand_paging_test James Houghton
2024-12-14 22:46   ` kernel test robot
2024-12-04 19:13 ` [PATCH v1 11/13] KVM: selftests: Inform set_memory_region_test of KVM_MEM_USERFAULT James Houghton
2024-12-04 19:13 ` [PATCH v1 12/13] KVM: selftests: Add KVM_MEM_USERFAULT + guest_memfd toggle tests James Houghton
2024-12-04 19:13 ` [PATCH v1 13/13] KVM: Documentation: Add KVM_CAP_USERFAULT and KVM_MEM_USERFAULT details James Houghton
2024-12-07  1:38   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-12-24 21:07 ` [PATCH v1 00/13] KVM: Introduce KVM Userfault Peter Xu
2025-01-02 17:53   ` James Houghton
2025-01-16 20:19     ` Peter Xu
2025-01-16 20:32       ` Peter Xu
2025-01-16 22:16         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-16 23:04           ` James Houghton
2025-01-16 23:17             ` Peter Xu
2025-01-16 23:46               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-16 22:51         ` James Houghton
2025-01-16 23:31           ` Peter Xu

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