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From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
To: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>
Cc: Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Marijn Suijten <marijn.suijten@somainline.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] firmware/psci: Allow specifying an S2RAM state through CPU_SUSPEND
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 10:24:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z1LQ0-3AVkVHgPaY@bogus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZzSiM6Pn6A9e1QUD@lpieralisi>

On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 01:57:23PM +0100, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 03:22:59PM +0100, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> > From: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
> > 
> > Certain firmware implementations (such as the ones found on Qualcomm
> > SoCs between roughly 2015 and 2023) expose an S3-like S2RAM state
> > through the CPU_SUSPEND call.
> > 
> > This works exactly like SYSTEM_SUSPEND. The PSCI spec describes that
> > call as optional (and only introduced in PSCIv1.0), so not all
> > platforms expose it.
> > 
> > Marking a DT-described "domain-idle-state" as such isn't currently
> > well accounted for in the PSCI idle topology infrastructure: the
> > cpuidle and genpd framework are deeply intertwined, and trying to
> > separate them would cause more havoc than good.
> 
> I don't understand what you mean here please elaborate.
> 
> The part of the story I understand is that you have a system (well,
> firmware for an extended set of systems) that does not implement
> SYSTEM_SUSPEND but can reach a S2R like system state through the
> CPU_SUSPEND call. Firmware works in OS-initiated mode, idle-states
> should allow you to define idle states that allow the system to
> enter the S2R state through CPUidle.
> 
> Please explain to me what's missing.
> 
> > Instead, allow the specifying of a single CPU_SUSPEND sleep param
> > under the /psci node that shall be treated exactly like SYSTEM_SUSPEND
> > from Linux's POV. As a bonus, this way we also don't have to fight
> > with the genpd idle governor to avoid taking the S3-like state into
> > consideration.
> 
> That's not acceptable. I want to understand what's preventing this
> system to enter that state through suspend2idle and the mainline code.
> 
> > Signed-off-by: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
> > ---
> >  drivers/firmware/psci/psci.c | 36 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
> >  1 file changed, 31 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> 
> NACK
> 

+1, will wait for the response here before adding any more questions that
may lead to more confusion or discussion churn.

-- 
Regards,
Sudeep


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-06 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-28 14:22 [PATCH 0/3] Allow specifying an S2RAM sleep on pre-SYSTEM_SUSPEND PSCI impls Konrad Dybcio
2024-10-28 14:22 ` [PATCH 1/3] dt-bindings: arm,psci: Allow S2RAM power_state parameter description Konrad Dybcio
2024-10-28 17:09   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2024-11-13 12:43   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2024-12-05 20:08     ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-06 10:21   ` Sudeep Holla
2024-12-19 19:43     ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-20 11:27       ` Sudeep Holla
2024-12-20 12:54         ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-20 13:55           ` Sudeep Holla
2024-12-20 13:57             ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-20 14:04               ` Sudeep Holla
2024-12-20 14:21                 ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-10-28 14:22 ` [PATCH 2/3] firmware/psci: Set pm_set_resume/suspend_via_firmware() for SYSTEM_SUSPEND Konrad Dybcio
2024-10-28 14:22 ` [PATCH 3/3] firmware/psci: Allow specifying an S2RAM state through CPU_SUSPEND Konrad Dybcio
2024-11-13 12:57   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2024-12-06 10:24     ` Sudeep Holla [this message]
2024-12-19 19:23     ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-11-12 18:01 ` [PATCH 0/3] Allow specifying an S2RAM sleep on pre-SYSTEM_SUSPEND PSCI impls Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-11-12 18:32   ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-11-12 18:43     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-11-12 19:04       ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-11-13  8:05         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-19 19:20           ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-11-14  1:10 ` Elliot Berman
2024-12-19 19:26   ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-20 11:39     ` Sudeep Holla
2024-12-20 12:42       ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-20 13:58         ` Sudeep Holla
2024-12-20 14:20           ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-20 14:36             ` Sudeep Holla
2024-12-20 14:57               ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-11-14 15:30 ` Ulf Hansson
2024-12-05 20:34   ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-06  9:53     ` Ulf Hansson
2024-12-19 19:37       ` Konrad Dybcio

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