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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	 Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,  linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] KVM: Add a common kvm_run flag to communicate an exit needs completion
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 08:59:35 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z4VGdxyswQ6qcKR0@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z4R12HOD1o8ETYzm@intel.com>

On Mon, Jan 13, 2025, Chao Gao wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 05:24:48PM -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> >Add a kvm_run flag, KVM_RUN_NEEDS_COMPLETION, to communicate to userspace
> >that KVM_RUN needs to be re-executed prior to save/restore in order to
> >complete the instruction/operation that triggered the userspace exit.
> >
> >KVM's current approach of adding notes in the Documentation is beyond
> >brittle, e.g. there is at least one known case where a KVM developer added
> >a new userspace exit type, and then that same developer forgot to handle
> >completion when adding userspace support.
> 
> This answers one question I had:
> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/Z1bmUCEdoZ87wIMn@intel.com/
> 
> So, it is the VMM's (i.e., QEMU's) responsibility to re-execute KVM_RUN in this
> case.

Yep.

> Btw, can this flag be used to address the issue [*] with steal time accounting?
> We can set the new flag for each vCPU in the PM notifier and we need to change
> the re-execution to handle steal time accounting (not just IO completion).
> 
> [*]: https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/Z36XJl1OAahVkxhl@google.com/

Uh, hmm.  Partially?  And not without creating new, potentially worse problems.

I like the idea, but (a) there's no guarantee a vCPU would be "in" KVM_RUN at
the time of suspend, and (b) KVM would need to take vcpu->mutex in the PM notifier
in order to avoid clobbering the current completion callback, which is definitely
a net negative (hello, deadlocks).

E.g. if a vCPU task is in userspace processing emulated MMIO at the time of
suspend+resume, KVM's completion callback will be non-zero and must be preserved.
And if a vCPU task is in userspace processing an exit that _doesn't_ require
completion, setting KVM_RUN_NEEDS_COMPLETION would likely be missed by userspace,
e.g. if userspace checks the flag only after regaining control from KVM_RUN.

In general, I think setting KVM_RUN_NEEDS_COMPLETION outside of KVM_RUN would add
too much complexity.

> one nit below,
> 
> >--- a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm.h
> >+++ b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm.h
> >@@ -104,9 +104,10 @@ struct kvm_ioapic_state {
> > #define KVM_IRQCHIP_IOAPIC       2
> > #define KVM_NR_IRQCHIPS          3
> > 
> >-#define KVM_RUN_X86_SMM		 (1 << 0)
> >-#define KVM_RUN_X86_BUS_LOCK     (1 << 1)
> >-#define KVM_RUN_X86_GUEST_MODE   (1 << 2)
> >+#define KVM_RUN_X86_SMM			(1 << 0)
> >+#define KVM_RUN_X86_BUS_LOCK		(1 << 1)
> >+#define KVM_RUN_X86_GUEST_MODE		(1 << 2)
> >+#define KVM_RUN_X86_NEEDS_COMPLETION	(1 << 2)
> 
> This X86_NEEDS_COMPLETION should be dropped. It is never used.

Gah, thanks!


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-13 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-11  1:24 [PATCH 0/5] KVM: Add a kvm_run flag to signal need for completion Sean Christopherson
2025-01-11  1:24 ` [PATCH 1/5] KVM: x86: Document that KVM_EXIT_HYPERCALL requires completion Sean Christopherson
2025-01-11  1:24 ` [PATCH 2/5] KVM: Clear vcpu->run->flags at start of KVM_RUN for all architectures Sean Christopherson
2025-01-11  1:24 ` [PATCH 3/5] KVM: Add a common kvm_run flag to communicate an exit needs completion Sean Christopherson
2025-01-11 11:01   ` Marc Zyngier
2025-01-13 15:44     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-13 17:58       ` Marc Zyngier
2025-01-13 18:58         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-13 19:38           ` Marc Zyngier
2025-01-13 22:04             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-13  2:09   ` Chao Gao
2025-01-13  9:01     ` Binbin Wu
2025-01-13 16:59     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-01-11  1:24 ` [PATCH 4/5] KVM: selftests: Provide separate helper for KVM_RUN with immediate_exit Sean Christopherson
2025-01-11  1:24 ` [PATCH 5/5] KVM: selftests: Rely on KVM_RUN_NEEDS_COMPLETION to complete userspace exits Sean Christopherson

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