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From: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: iommu@lists.linux.dev, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 00/58] KVM: Arm SMMUv3 driver for pKVM
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 11:46:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z5DahnNdoShXesib@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250116191952.GD674319@ziepe.ca>

On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 03:19:52PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 08, 2025 at 12:09:53PM +0000, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> 
> > I am open to gradually upstream this as you mentioned where as a first
> > step pKVM would establish DMA isolation without translation for host,
> > that should be enough to have functional pKVM and run protected workloads.
> 
> Personally I hate these giant patch series, you should strip it down
> to small meaningful steps and try to stay below 20 per series.
> 
> I think getting pkvm to own the SMMU HW is a great first step that
> everything else can build on

I plan to do that for v3, I think that also removes the out-of-tree
dependencies, so the code applies directly on upstream.
Thanks for the feedback!

> 
> > But although that might be usable on some systems, I don’t think that’s
> > practical in the long term as it limits the amount of HW that can run pKVM.
> 
> I suspect you will end up doing everything. Old HW needs paravirt, new
> HW will want nesting and its performance. Users other than mobile will
> come. If we were to use pKVM on server workloads we need nesting for
> performance.

Yes, I guess that would be the case, as I mentioned in another reply
it would be interesting to get the order of magnitude both, which I am
looking into, I hope it'd help with which direction we should
prioritize upstream.

Thanks,
Mostafa

> 
> Jason


      reply	other threads:[~2025-01-22 11:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-12 18:03 [RFC PATCH v2 00/58] KVM: Arm SMMUv3 driver for pKVM Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/58] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Split the page table driver Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/58] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Split initialization Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/58] iommu/io-pgtable: Add configure() operation Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move some definitions to arm64 include/ Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Extract driver-specific bits from probe function Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move some functions to arm-smmu-v3-common.c Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move queue and table allocation " Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move firmware probe to arm-smmu-v3-common Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move IOMMU registration to arm-smmu-v3-common.c Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move common irq code to common file Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/58] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Add pkvm_udelay() Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-19 11:14   ` Quentin Perret
2024-12-19 11:21     ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-19 11:28       ` Quentin Perret
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/58] KVM: arm64: Add __pkvm_{use, unuse}_dma() Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-19 11:23   ` Quentin Perret
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/58] KVM: arm64: Introduce IOMMU driver infrastructure Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/58] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Add IOMMU hypercalls Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/58] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add a memory pool for the IOMMU Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/58] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add domains Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/58] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add {attach, detach}_dev Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/58] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add map/unmap() operations Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/58] KVM: arm64: iommu: support iommu_iotlb_gather Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 20/58] KVM: arm64: Support power domains Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 21/58] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Add __pkvm_host_add_remove_page() Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-19 11:10   ` Quentin Perret
2024-12-19 11:19     ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 22/58] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Support SCMI power domain Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 23/58] KVM: arm64: iommu: Support power management Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 24/58] KVM: arm64: iommu: Support DABT for IOMMU Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 25/58] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add SMMUv3 driver Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 26/58] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Initialize registers Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 27/58] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Setup command queue Mostafa Saleh
2025-01-23 13:01   ` Robin Murphy
2025-01-29 11:15     ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 28/58] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Setup stream table Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 29/58] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Setup event queue Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 30/58] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Reset the device Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 31/58] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Support io-pgtable Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 32/58] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Add {alloc/free}_domain Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 33/58] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Add TLB ops Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 34/58] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Add context descriptor functions Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 35/58] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Add attach_dev Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 36/58] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Add detach_dev Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 37/58] iommu/io-pgtable: Generalize walker interface Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 38/58] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Add post table walker callback Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 39/58] drivers/iommu: io-pgtable: Add IO_PGTABLE_QUIRK_UNMAP_INVAL Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 40/58] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Add map/unmap pages and iova_to_phys Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 19:44   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-12-13 19:48     ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 41/58] KVM: arm64: smmu-v3: Add DABT handler Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 42/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add host driver for pKVM Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 43/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Pass a list of SMMU devices to the hypervisor Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 44/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Validate device features Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 45/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Allocate structures and reset device Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 46/58] KVM: arm64: Add function to topup generic allocator Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 47/58] KVM: arm64: Add macro for SMCCC call with all returns Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 48/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add function to topup IOMMU allocator Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 49/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add IOMMU ops Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 50/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add map, unmap and iova_to_phys operations Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 51/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Support PASID operations Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 52/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add IRQs for the driver Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 53/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Probe power domains Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 54/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Enable runtime PM Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 55/58] drivers/iommu: Add deferred map_sg operations Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-19 12:48   ` Robin Murphy
2024-12-19 14:24     ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-01-02 20:18       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-03 15:35         ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-01-03 15:47           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 12:13             ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 56/58] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add hypercall for map_sg Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 57/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Implement sg operations Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 18:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 58/58] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Support command queue batching Mostafa Saleh
2024-12-12 19:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/58] KVM: Arm SMMUv3 driver for pKVM Jason Gunthorpe
2024-12-13 19:39   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-01-02 20:16     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 12:09       ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-01-16  6:39         ` Tian, Kevin
2025-01-16 19:14           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-17  6:57             ` Tian, Kevin
2025-01-22 11:04               ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-01-22 16:20                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-22 17:17                   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-01-22 19:16                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-23  8:13                 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-01-29 12:16                   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-01-16  8:51         ` Tian, Kevin
2025-01-22 11:28           ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-01-23  8:25             ` Tian, Kevin
2025-01-29 12:21               ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-01-29 13:50                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-29 14:08                   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-02-18  9:52                 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-01-16 19:19         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-22 11:46           ` Mostafa Saleh [this message]

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