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From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	Peter Collingbourne <pcc@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: arm64: Drop mte_allowed check during memslot creation
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 00:02:43 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z77Kox18iINqlp6L@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ikozqmsl.wl-maz@kernel.org>

On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 05:23:38PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 16:44:06 +0000, Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org> wrote:
> > What if we trigger a memory fault exit with the TAGACCESS flag, allowing
> > the VMM to use the GPA to retrieve additional details and print extra
> > information to aid in analysis? BTW, we will do this on the first fault
> > in cacheable, non-tagged memory even if there is no tagaccess in that
> > region. This can be further improved using the NoTagAccess series I
> > posted earlier, which ensures the memory fault exit occurs only on
> > actual tag access
> > 
> > Something like below?
> 
> Something like that, only with:
> 
> - a capability informing userspace of this behaviour
> 
> - a per-VM (or per-VMA) flag as a buy-in for that behaviour
> 
> - the relaxation is made conditional on the memslot not being memory
> (i.e. really MMIO-only).

I pretty much agree with you here but I think the flag ought to be a
per-memslot thing (rather than VMA or VM). Rather than open up the
entire memory attributes space to userspace we could just have a flag to
prevent cacheable mappings for the memslot.

Similar to how MTE is enforced today, we can have a shared check between
memslot creation && the abort path that'd require VM_MTE_ALLOWED for any
'cacheable memslot'. Failing memslot creation still is the clearest
signal of misuse to the VMM, IMO.

Thanks,
Oliver


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-26  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-24  9:39 [PATCH] KVM: arm64: Drop mte_allowed check during memslot creation Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-02-24 10:32 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-02-24 11:05 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-02-24 12:24   ` Marc Zyngier
2025-02-24 14:39     ` Catalin Marinas
2025-02-24 15:02       ` Marc Zyngier
2025-02-24 16:44         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-02-24 17:23           ` Marc Zyngier
2025-02-26  8:02             ` Oliver Upton [this message]
2025-02-26  9:58             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-02-26 15:58               ` Catalin Marinas
2025-02-26 16:48                 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-02-26 18:02                   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-02-24 18:00         ` Catalin Marinas

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