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From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Fix MDCR_EL2.HPMN reset value
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 11:04:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z7YrLMz49_f14MRs@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86a5airpyy.wl-maz@kernel.org>

On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 02:03:49PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 18:53:50 +0000, Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev> wrote:
> > What do you think about adding a new vCPU attribute for selecting the
> > number of counters for a VM? We can allow non-nested VMs to use the
> > 'old' method of writing PMCR_EL0.N and force nested VMs to use the
> > attribute.
> 
> VCPU attribute? or PMU attribute? I'm really not keen on the former,
> but the latter is probably workable, as it is VM-wide, similar to the
> way we keep track of pmcr_n.

Well the _existing_ PMU attributes are actually vCPU attributes. I do
agree that accessing them as a VM attribute makes more sense, but that's
the UAPI we already have...

> > We can then enforce ordering on the attribute and prevent it from being
> > used after vCPU reset.
> 
> How would that work? Do you really want to mandate the PMU selection
> (with its counter capping) to strictly occur between vcpu creation and
> init?
> 
> This would, for example, break kvmtool which has these two operations
> back-to-back, and sneaking new device-specific actions in the middle
> is a bit unpalatable (there is a split between VM-wide and per-vcpu
> actions).
> 
> Any idea?

If we want to do this the 'right' way, we should provide VM attributes
for selecting the PMU implementation / configuring the event filter
to complement an attribute for setting the number of event counters.

I don't want to have a mix-and-match approach where vPMU attributes are
scattered between the vCPU and the VM since it requires a similar amount
of gymnastics in userspace to set crap up.

Thanks,
Oliver


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-19 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-17 11:24 [PATCH 0/2] KVM: arm64: EL2 PMU reset handling fixes Marc Zyngier
2025-02-17 11:24 ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Fix MDCR_EL2.HPMN reset value Marc Zyngier
2025-02-17 18:53   ` Oliver Upton
2025-02-19 14:03     ` Marc Zyngier
2025-02-19 19:04       ` Oliver Upton [this message]
2025-02-19 21:10         ` Marc Zyngier
2025-02-17 11:24 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: arm64: Contextualise the handling of PMCR_EL0.P writes Marc Zyngier
2025-02-17 18:33   ` Oliver Upton
2025-02-20 10:44 ` [PATCH 0/2] KVM: arm64: EL2 PMU reset handling fixes Joey Gouly

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