From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73B11C6FD1F for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 23:15:26 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post: List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:References: Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: List-Owner; bh=rQkIGdPs5/dVfYzGYZGvoz7YWX0UIxq9WLF/wZ/cq/U=; b=bvfzPvYcz9Ad4g JFEm4oQkc33WGHoH6cYO/Cs3LfdI8Bb+NLa6DqzARPzwhI1xYbbVeCG/s1ZAEVv4+YEMwMKfiLcWK Uf20LiO/lgNimwaXYaysY/shRYamcb++iuj+62a0tpBzPF6h/V4tsmW5sfzpRzMYYBFqGEki4HnCr ghk5BVvykVMYS/ZtnPwftT0riggS7UycWdYOl5YT/9o3ONrtRd5EDQArdilsR0gUwIOMiiaRO/7wN 3ta/BGbSYAq6fmiPY4KP3PJwT42Ot/uAfa4n6ZHOrnGaf/Y7EqgtAAFAJRnZtUf5PmVIJyAmOtW1T 6yOKRn2cP7BOuw1BDqFw==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=bombadil.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1pcDqh-00BlXI-0l; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 23:14:31 +0000 Received: from pandora.armlinux.org.uk ([2001:4d48:ad52:32c8:5054:ff:fe00:142]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.96 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1pcDqb-00BlK3-37; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 23:14:28 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=armlinux.org.uk; s=pandora-2019; h=Sender:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=tQPhhNBlCS6fcUFwNOTfLKKm1TR9Z5ixAZW9T52AJ9g=; b=XTCf5LQ0AL2PtBceVjBzHBzMcP 9uuW7FreifwFbq8YHCPpuji3oM4j4FmJIJx29DCbDAuB+04bEKMhtugeaPkXyAkjYudnhr7kUpED8 dbwCop4pHOB9gYbpg8ln1cb1Jx2Ywj5FUTqlyYf60G1x1DN1LM9eng93KlWv8VfFDeuYygXeDQQYg Qjul8HmNHC0fZQMj4WUISJngU8ou23L2wEAUzKjOUiVlfvK9PuNBw+oV7YCUukHJyn2IQKkl4ayD+ AYVlgZ5o2SQGGb+nKMNN2loOlOP1WYbqcj/L1bUX9cR9p2qGgMsLgxrPrGQMzTs968mGhTw+3mPs/ 9KNtqAWA==; Received: from shell.armlinux.org.uk ([fd8f:7570:feb6:1:5054:ff:fe00:4ec]:57834) by pandora.armlinux.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1pcDoM-00065K-4C; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 23:12:06 +0000 Received: from linux by shell.armlinux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1pcDoE-0000m1-Qn; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 23:11:58 +0000 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 23:11:58 +0000 From: "Russell King (Oracle)" To: Vladimir Oltean Cc: =?utf-8?B?QXLEsW7DpyDDnE5BTA==?= , Daniel Golle , netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Heiner Kallweit , Lorenzo Bianconi , Mark Lee , John Crispin , Felix Fietkau , AngeloGioacchino Del Regno , Matthias Brugger , DENG Qingfang , Landen Chao , Sean Wang , Paolo Abeni , Jakub Kicinski , Eric Dumazet , "David S. Miller" , Vladimir Oltean , Florian Fainelli , Andrew Lunn , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Mork , Frank Wunderlich , Alexander Couzens Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v13 11/16] net: dsa: mt7530: use external PCS driver Message-ID: References: <2ac2ee40d3b0e705461b50613fda6a7edfdbc4b3.1678357225.git.daniel@makrotopia.org> <20230314195322.tsciinumrxtw64o5@skbuf> <3e3e6a1e-61ba-a6e8-5503-258fb8e949bb@arinc9.com> <20230314223413.velxur7gi7snpdei@skbuf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230314223413.velxur7gi7snpdei@skbuf> X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20230314_161426_026342_B797724B X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 18.39 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 12:34:13AM +0200, Vladimir Oltean wrote: > But the mt7530 maintainers have gone > pretty silent as of late, and I, as a fallback maintainer with no > hardware, have had to send 2 bug fixes to the mt7530 and 1 to the > mtk_eth_soc driver in the past month, to address the reports. That's an under-statement, and not just the DSA driver, but the ethernet driver too. It's been years trying to get the attention of anyone to sort out the pre-March 2020 crud in this driver, and no one seems to care, and none of the alleged maintainers bother replying. I don't believe anyone who claims to be a maintainer for either the DSA or Ethernet driver has commented on any of my patches or provided any review. In my mind, these drivers do not have maintainers. What I have to resort to is spotting potential victims^wtesters on the mailing lists to try stuff out for me - which is really not how this should work. It seems to me that this is the old "chuck code over the wall into mainline, then do a runner" approach to kernel maintenance. So, honestly, the sooner these drivers get proper maintainers, the better - and if someone wants to step up to do that amongst those who are involved in the current work, I'm all for that - it would be a hell of a lot better than the current situation. -- RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last! _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel