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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	"Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, John Ogness <jogness@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: Excessive TLB flush ranges
Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 17:01:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZGOa46fQ98WCiVtP@pc636> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o7mk733x.ffs@tglx>

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 04:38:58PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Tue, May 16 2023 at 15:42, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> >> _vm_unmap_aliases() collects dirty ranges from per cpu vmap_block_queue
> >> (what ever that is) and hands a start..end range to
> >> __purge_vmap_area_lazy().
> >> 
> >> As I pointed out already, this can also end up being an excessive range
> >> because there is no guarantee that those individual collected ranges are
> >> consecutive. Though I have no idea how to cure that right now.
> >> 
> >> AFAICT this was done to spare flush IPIs, but the mm folks should be
> >> able to explain that properly.
> >> 
> > This is done to prevent generating IPIs. That is why the whole range is
> > calculated once and a flush occurs only once for all lazily registered VAs.
> 
> Sure, but you pretty much enforced flush_tlb_all() by doing that, which
> is not even close to correct.
> 
> This range calculation is only correct when the resulting coalesced
> range is consecutive, but if the resulting coalesced range is huge with
> large holes and only a few pages to flush, then it's actively wrong.
> 
> The architecture has zero chance to decide whether it wants to flush
> single entries or all in one go.
> 
Id depends what is a corner case what is not. Usually all allocations are
done sequentially. From the other hand it is not always true. A good
example is a module loading/unloading(it has a special place in vmap space).
In this scenario we are quite far in vmap space from for example VMALLOC_START
point. So it will require a flush_tlb_all, yes.

>
> There is a world outside of x86, but even on x86 it's borderline silly
> to take the whole TLB out when you can flush 3 TLB entries one by one
> with exactly the same number of IPIs, i.e. _one_. No?
> 
I meant if we invoke flush_tlb_kernel_range() on each VA's individual
range:

<ARM>
void flush_tlb_kernel_range(unsigned long start, unsigned long end)
{
	if (tlb_ops_need_broadcast()) {
		struct tlb_args ta;
		ta.ta_start = start;
		ta.ta_end = end;
		on_each_cpu(ipi_flush_tlb_kernel_range, &ta, 1);
	} else
		local_flush_tlb_kernel_range(start, end);
	broadcast_tlb_a15_erratum();
}
<ARM>

we should IPI and wait, no?

--
Uladzislau Rezki

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-16 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-15 16:43 Excessive TLB flush ranges Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-15 16:59 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-15 19:46   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-15 21:11     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-15 21:31       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  6:37         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  6:46           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:18           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:20             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:27               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  9:03                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16 10:05                   ` Baoquan He
2023-05-16 14:21                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16 19:03                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17  9:38                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 10:52                           ` Baoquan He
2023-05-19 11:22                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 11:49                               ` Baoquan He
2023-05-19 14:13                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 12:01                         ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm/vmalloc.c: try to flush vmap_area one by one Baoquan He
2023-05-19 14:16                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 12:02                         ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm/vmalloc.c: Only flush VM_FLUSH_RESET_PERMS area immediately Baoquan He
2023-05-19 12:03                         ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] mm/vmalloc.c: change _vm_unmap_aliases() to do purge firstly Baoquan He
2023-05-19 14:17                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 18:38                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 23:46                             ` Baoquan He
2023-05-21 23:10                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-22 11:21                                 ` Baoquan He
2023-05-22 12:02                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-22 14:34                                     ` Baoquan He
2023-05-22 20:21                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-22 20:44                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-23  9:35                                         ` Baoquan He
2023-05-19 13:49                   ` Excessive TLB flush ranges Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:21             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  8:19           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  8:44             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:48               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16 12:09                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16 13:42                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-16 14:38                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16 15:01                       ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2023-05-16 17:04                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 11:26                           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-17 11:58                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 12:15                               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-17 16:32                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 10:01                                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-19 14:56                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 15:14                                       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-19 16:32                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 17:02                                           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-16 17:56                       ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-16 19:32                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17  0:23                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17  1:23                             ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-17 10:31                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 11:47                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 22:41                                   ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-17 14:43                                 ` Mark Rutland
2023-05-17 16:41                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 22:57                                 ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-19 11:49                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 12:12                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-17 23:14                                 ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-15 18:17 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-16  2:26   ` Baoquan He
2023-05-16  6:40     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:07       ` Baoquan He
2023-05-16  8:10         ` Baoquan He
2023-05-16  8:45         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  9:13           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:54         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  9:48           ` Baoquan He
2023-05-15 20:02 ` Nadav Amit

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