Re: [PATCH] arm64: smp: smp_send_stop() and crash_smp_send_stop() should try non-NMI first

From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
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	Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: smp: smp_send_stop() and crash_smp_send_stop() should try non-NMI first
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 16:05:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZeH81_k6TFk7W4tm@FVFF77S0Q05N> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=XMkrWmA1D6UjdTs8oZiXxKc1xiUoRqtNqAE-7GoPk8mA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Doug,

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 04:57:31PM -0800, Doug Anderson wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 4:54 PM Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 5:03 PM Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> wrote:

> > The sound of crickets is overwhelming. ;-) Does anyone have any
> > comments here? Is this a terrible idea? Is this the best idea you've
> > heard all year (it's only been 8 days, so maybe)? Is this great but
> > the implementation is lacking (at best)? Do you hate that this waits
> > for 1 second and wish it waited for 1 ms? 10 ms? 100 ms? 8192 ms?
> >
> > Aside from the weirdness of a processor being killed while holding the
> > console lock, it does seem beneficial to give IRQs at least a little
> > time to finish before killing a processor. I don't have any other
> > explicit examples, but I could just imagine that things might be a
> > little more orderly in such a case...
> 
> I'm still hoping to get some sort of feedback here. If people think
> this is a terrible idea then I'll shut up now and leave well enough
> alone, but it would be nice to actively decide and get the patch out
> of limbo.
> 
> FWIW the serial console dumping issue that originally inspired me to
> track this down has been worked around at least well enough to not
> spew garbage in my console. See commit 9e957a155005 ("serial:
> qcom-geni: Don't cancel/abort if we can't get the port lock"). It's
> still a little awkward because we'll be running fully lockless during
> panic time, but it seems to work...

This is on my list of things to look into, but I haven't had the chance to go
through it in detail.

From a high level, I think this sounds reasonable; I just want to make sure
this doesn't lead to any new surprises...

Mark.

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