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From: Charlie Jenkins <charlie@rivosinc.com>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: "Conor Dooley" <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
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	"Guo Ren" <guoren@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/19] riscv: Introduce vendor variants of extension helpers
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 14:03:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZhmhtLS5NuRrPOfu@ghost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240412-drab-french-55d8ff2c8cfa@spud>

On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 09:40:03PM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 10:43:02AM -0700, Charlie Jenkins wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 12:49:57PM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 09:11:14PM -0700, Charlie Jenkins wrote:
> > > > Create vendor variants of the existing extension helpers. If the
> > > > existing functions were instead modified to support vendor extensions, a
> > > > branch based on the ext value being greater than
> > > > RISCV_ISA_VENDOR_EXT_BASE would have to be introduced. This additional
> > > > branch would have an unnecessary performance impact.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Charlie Jenkins <charlie@rivosinc.com>
> > > 
> > > I've not looked at the "main" patch in the series that adds all of the
> > > probing and structures for representing this info yet beyond a cursory
> > > glance, but it feels like we're duplicating a bunch of infrastructure
> > > here before it is necessary. The IDs are all internal to Linux, so I'd
> > > rather we kept everything in the same structure until we have more than
> > > a handful of vendor extensions. With this patch (and the theadpmu stuff)
> > > we will have three vendor extensions which feels like a drop in the
> > > bucket compared to the standard ones.
> > 
> > It is not duplicating infrastructure. If we merge this into the existing
> > infrastructure, we would be littering if (ext > RISCV_ISA_VENDOR_EXT_BASE)
> > in __riscv_isa_extension_available. This is particularily important
> > exactly because we have so few vendor extensions currently so this check
> > would be irrelevant in the vast majority of cases.
> 
> That's only because of your implementation. The existing vendor extension
> works fine without this littering. That's another thing actually, you
> forgot to convert over the user we already have :)

Oh right, I will convert them over. The fundemental goal of this patch
is to allow a way for vendors to support their own extensions without
needing to populate riscv_isa_ext. This is to create separation between
vendors so they do not impact each other.

xlinuxenvcfg does not fit into this scheme however. This scheme assumes
that a hart cannot have multiple vendors which that extension breaks.
xlinuxenvcfg is really filling a hole in the standard isa that is
applicible to all vendors and does not appear in the device tree so it
is okay for that to live outside this scheme.

> 
> > It is also unecessary to push off the refactoring until we have some
> > "sufficient" amount of vendor extensions to deem changing the
> > infrastructure when I already have the patch available here. This does
> > not introduce any extra overhead to existing functions and will be able
> > to support vendors into the future.
> 
> Yeah, maybe that's true but this was my gut reaction before reading the
> other patch in detail (which I've still yet to do).

- Charlie


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  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-12 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-12  4:11 [PATCH 00/19] riscv: Support vendor extensions and xtheadvector Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 01/19] dt-bindings: riscv: Add vendorid and archid Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12  9:57   ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 02/19] riscv: cpufeature: Fix thead vector hwcap removal Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 10:25   ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 17:04     ` Evan Green
2024-04-12 18:38       ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 18:46         ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 19:26           ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 20:34             ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 20:42               ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 17:12     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 18:47       ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 20:48         ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 21:27           ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 21:31             ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 23:40               ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-16  3:34                 ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-16  7:36                   ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-17  4:25                     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-17 16:02                       ` Evan Green
2024-04-17 22:02                         ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 03/19] dt-bindings: riscv: Add xtheadvector ISA extension description Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 10:27   ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 17:13     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 04/19] riscv: dts: allwinner: Add xtheadvector to the D1/D1s devicetree Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 05/19] riscv: Fix extension subset checking Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 11:25   ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 06/19] riscv: Extend cpufeature.c to detect vendor extensions Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 12:30   ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 16:58     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 18:59       ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 14:44   ` kernel test robot
2024-04-13 22:10   ` kernel test robot
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 07/19] riscv: Optimize riscv_cpu_isa_extension_(un)likely() Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 10:40   ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 17:34     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 20:33       ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 08/19] riscv: Introduce vendor variants of extension helpers Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 11:49   ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 17:43     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 20:40       ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 21:03         ` Charlie Jenkins [this message]
2024-04-12 21:34           ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 21:56             ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 09/19] riscv: uaccess: Add alternative for xtheadvector uaccess Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 10/19] RISC-V: define the elements of the VCSR vector CSR Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 11:27   ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 18:22     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 11/19] riscv: csr: Add CSR encodings for VCSR_VXRM/VCSR_VXSAT Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 12/19] riscv: Create xtheadvector file Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 11:30   ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 18:24     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 19:00       ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 20:53         ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 13/19] riscv: vector: Support xtheadvector save/restore Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 14/19] riscv: hwprobe: Disambiguate vector and xtheadvector in hwprobe Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 11:34   ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 17:04     ` Evan Green
2024-04-12 18:22       ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 22:08         ` Evan Green
2024-04-12 22:37           ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 15/19] riscv: hwcap: Add v to hwcap if xtheadvector enabled Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 11:37   ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 18:26     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 16/19] riscv: hwprobe: Add vendor extension probing Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 11:39   ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-12 17:05   ` Evan Green
2024-04-12 18:16     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 19:07       ` Evan Green
2024-04-12 20:20         ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 21:43           ` Evan Green
2024-04-12 22:21             ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12 22:50               ` Evan Green
2024-04-12 23:12                 ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 17/19] riscv: hwprobe: Document vendor extensions and xtheadvector extension Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 18/19] selftests: riscv: Fix vector tests Charlie Jenkins
2024-04-12  4:11 ` [PATCH 19/19] selftests: riscv: Support xtheadvector in " Charlie Jenkins

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