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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: "Liao, Chang" <liaochang1@huawei.com>,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org, mhiramat@kernel.org,
	oleg@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, puranjay@kernel.org,
	ast@kernel.org, andrii@kernel.org, xukuohai@huawei.com,
	revest@chromium.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: insn: Simulate nop and push instruction for better uprobe performance
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 11:18:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zt7LWaoZ0PTFqVLF@J2N7QTR9R3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzYn3EkVVk4dnWMBMKa16y_ZFvQp3ZcdM44a2LeS08S6FQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 06, 2024 at 10:46:00AM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2024 at 2:39 AM Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 07:33:55PM +0800, Liao, Chang wrote:
> > > Hi, Mark
> > >
> > > Would you like to discuss this patch further, or do you still believe emulating
> > > STP to push FP/LR into the stack in kernel is not a good idea?
> >
> > I'm happy with the NOP emulation in principle, so please send a new
> > version with *just* the NOP emulation, and I can review that.
> 
> Let's definitely start with that, this is important for faster USDT tracing.
> 
> > Regarding STP emulation, I stand by my earlier comments, and in addition
> > to those comments, AFAICT it's currently unsafe to use any uaccess
> > routine in the uprobe BRK handler anyway, so that's moot. The uprobe BRK
> > handler runs with preemption disabled and IRQs (and all other maskable
> > exceptions) masked, and faults cannot be handled. IIUC
> > CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP should scream about that.
> 
> This part I don't really get, and this might be some very
> ARM64-specific issue, so I'm sorry ahead of time.
> 
> But in general, at the lowest level uprobes work in two logical steps.
> First, there is a breakpoint that user space hits, kernel gets
> control, and if VMA which hit breakpoint might contain uprobe, kernel
> sets TIF_UPROBE thread flag and exits. This is the only part that's in
> hard IRQ context. See uprobe_notify_resume() and comments around it.
> 
> Then uprobe infrastructure gets called in user context on the way back
> to user space. This is where we confirm that this is uprobe/uretprobe
> hit, and, if supported, perform instruction emulation.
> 
> So I'm wondering if your above comment refers to instruction emulation
> within the first part of uprobe handling? If yes, then, no, that's not
> where emulation will happen.

You're right -- I had misunderstood that the emulation happened during
handling of the breakpoint, rather than on the return-to-userspace path.
Looking at the arm64 entry code, the way uprobe_notify_resume() is
plumbed in is safe as it happens after we've re-enabled preemption and
unmasked other exceptions.

Sorry about that.

For the moment I'd still prefer to get the NOP case out of the way
first, so I'll review the NOP-only patch shortly.

Mark.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-09 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-14  8:03 [PATCH] arm64: insn: Simulate nop and push instruction for better uprobe performance Liao Chang
2024-08-15  9:58 ` Mark Rutland
2024-08-15 17:07   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-21  7:55   ` Liao, Chang
2024-08-27 11:33     ` Liao, Chang
2024-08-29 19:26       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-30  9:25         ` Liao, Chang
2024-09-05 20:17           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-09  7:40             ` Liao, Chang
2024-09-06  9:39       ` Mark Rutland
2024-09-06 17:46         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-09  7:24           ` Liao, Chang
2024-09-09 10:18           ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2024-09-09 16:57             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-09  7:42         ` Liao, Chang
2024-09-10  6:36         ` Liao, Chang

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