From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/19] mm/fork: Accept huge pfnmap entries
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:34:54 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZuGqjiYZA33lUS5z@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZuD9l6D6XuAUb4tP@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com>
On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 10:16:55AM +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 08:16:10AM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 10:52:01AM +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > > Hi Peter,
> >
> > Hi, Yan,
> >
> > >
> > > Not sure if I missed anything.
> > >
> > > It looks that before this patch, pmd/pud are alawys write protected without
> > > checking "is_cow_mapping(vma->vm_flags) && pud_write(pud)". pud_wrprotect()
> > > clears dirty bit by moving the dirty value to the software bit.
> > >
> > > And I have a question that why previously pmd/pud are always write protected.
> >
> > IIUC this is a separate question - the move of dirty bit in pud_wrprotect()
> > is to avoid wrongly creating shadow stack mappings. In our discussion I
> > think that's an extra complexity and can be put aside; the dirty bit will
> > get recovered in pud_clear_saveddirty() later, so it's not the same as
> > pud_mkclean().
> But pud_clear_saveddirty() will only set dirty bit when write bit is 1.
Yes, it's because x86 wants to avoid unexpected write=0 && dirty=1 entries,
because it can wrongly reflect a shadow stack mapping. Here we cannot
recover the dirty bit if set only if write bit is 1 first.
>
> >
> > AFAIU pmd/pud paths don't consider is_cow_mapping() because normally we
> > will not duplicate pgtables in fork() for most of shared file mappings
> > (!CoW). Please refer to vma_needs_copy(), and the comment before returning
> > false at last. I think it's not strictly is_cow_mapping(), as we're
> > checking anon_vma there, however it's mostly it, just to also cover
> > MAP_PRIVATE on file mappings too when there's no CoW happened (as if CoW
> > happened then anon_vma will appear already).
> >
> > There're some outliers, e.g. userfault protected, or pfnmaps/mixedmaps.
> > Userfault & mixedmap are not involved in this series at all, so let's
> > discuss pfnmaps.
> >
> > It means, fork() can still copy pgtable for pfnmap vmas, and it's relevant
> > to this series, because before this series pfnmap only exists in pte level,
> > hence IMO the is_cow_mapping() must exist for pte level as you described,
> > because it needs to properly take care of those. Note that in the pte
> > processing it also checks pte_write() to make sure it's a COWed page, not a
> > RO page cache / pfnmap / ..., for example.
> >
> > Meanwhile, since pfnmap won't appear in pmd/pud, I think it's fair that
> > pmd/pud assumes when seeing a huge mapping it must be MAP_PRIVATE otherwise
> > the whole copy_page_range() could be already skipped. IOW I think they
> > only need to process COWed pages here, and those pages require write bit
> > removed in both parent and child when fork().
> Is it also based on that there's no MAP_SHARED huge DEVMAP pages up to now?
Correct.
Thanks,
--
Peter Xu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-11 14:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-26 20:43 [PATCH v2 00/19] mm: Support huge pfnmaps Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 01/19] mm: Introduce ARCH_SUPPORTS_HUGE_PFNMAP and special bits to pmd/pud Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 02/19] mm: Drop is_huge_zero_pud() Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 03/19] mm: Mark special bits for huge pfn mappings when inject Peter Xu
2024-08-28 15:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 04/19] mm: Allow THP orders for PFNMAPs Peter Xu
2024-08-28 15:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 05/19] mm/gup: Detect huge pfnmap entries in gup-fast Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 06/19] mm/pagewalk: Check pfnmap for folio_walk_start() Peter Xu
2024-08-28 7:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-28 14:24 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28 15:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-28 19:45 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28 23:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-29 6:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 18:45 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-29 15:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 18:49 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 07/19] mm/fork: Accept huge pfnmap entries Peter Xu
2024-08-29 15:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 18:26 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-29 19:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 20:01 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-02 7:58 ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-03 21:23 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 22:25 ` Andrew Morton
2024-09-09 22:43 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 23:15 ` Andrew Morton
2024-09-10 0:08 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-10 2:52 ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-10 12:16 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-11 2:16 ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-11 14:34 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 08/19] mm: Always define pxx_pgprot() Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 09/19] mm: New follow_pfnmap API Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 10/19] KVM: Use " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 11/19] s390/pci_mmio: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 12/19] mm/x86/pat: Use the new " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 13/19] vfio: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 14/19] acrn: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 15/19] mm/access_process_vm: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 16/19] mm: Remove follow_pte() Peter Xu
2024-09-01 4:33 ` Yu Zhao
2024-09-01 13:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 17/19] mm/x86: Support large pfn mappings Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 18/19] mm/arm64: " Peter Xu
2025-03-19 22:22 ` Keith Busch
2025-03-19 22:46 ` Peter Xu
2025-03-19 22:53 ` Keith Busch
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 19/19] vfio/pci: Implement huge_fault support Peter Xu
2024-08-27 22:36 ` [PATCH v2 00/19] mm: Support huge pfnmaps Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-27 22:57 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28 0:42 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-28 0:46 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-28 14:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-28 16:10 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-28 23:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-29 19:21 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-04 15:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 16:38 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-04 16:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 16:58 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-04 17:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 17:07 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-09 3:56 ` Ankit Agrawal
2024-08-28 14:41 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28 16:23 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-09 4:03 ` Ankit Agrawal
2024-09-09 15:03 ` Peter Xu
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