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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
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	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
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	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
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	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/19] mm/fork: Accept huge pfnmap entries
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:34:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZuGqjiYZA33lUS5z@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZuD9l6D6XuAUb4tP@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com>

On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 10:16:55AM +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 08:16:10AM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 10:52:01AM +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > > Hi Peter,
> > 
> > Hi, Yan,
> > 
> > > 
> > > Not sure if I missed anything.
> > > 
> > > It looks that before this patch, pmd/pud are alawys write protected without
> > > checking "is_cow_mapping(vma->vm_flags) && pud_write(pud)". pud_wrprotect()
> > > clears dirty bit by moving the dirty value to the software bit.
> > > 
> > > And I have a question that why previously pmd/pud are always write protected.
> > 
> > IIUC this is a separate question - the move of dirty bit in pud_wrprotect()
> > is to avoid wrongly creating shadow stack mappings.  In our discussion I
> > think that's an extra complexity and can be put aside; the dirty bit will
> > get recovered in pud_clear_saveddirty() later, so it's not the same as
> > pud_mkclean().
> But pud_clear_saveddirty() will only set dirty bit when write bit is 1.

Yes, it's because x86 wants to avoid unexpected write=0 && dirty=1 entries,
because it can wrongly reflect a shadow stack mapping.  Here we cannot
recover the dirty bit if set only if write bit is 1 first.

> 
> > 
> > AFAIU pmd/pud paths don't consider is_cow_mapping() because normally we
> > will not duplicate pgtables in fork() for most of shared file mappings
> > (!CoW).  Please refer to vma_needs_copy(), and the comment before returning
> > false at last.  I think it's not strictly is_cow_mapping(), as we're
> > checking anon_vma there, however it's mostly it, just to also cover
> > MAP_PRIVATE on file mappings too when there's no CoW happened (as if CoW
> > happened then anon_vma will appear already).
> > 
> > There're some outliers, e.g. userfault protected, or pfnmaps/mixedmaps.
> > Userfault & mixedmap are not involved in this series at all, so let's
> > discuss pfnmaps.
> > 
> > It means, fork() can still copy pgtable for pfnmap vmas, and it's relevant
> > to this series, because before this series pfnmap only exists in pte level,
> > hence IMO the is_cow_mapping() must exist for pte level as you described,
> > because it needs to properly take care of those.  Note that in the pte
> > processing it also checks pte_write() to make sure it's a COWed page, not a
> > RO page cache / pfnmap / ..., for example.
> > 
> > Meanwhile, since pfnmap won't appear in pmd/pud, I think it's fair that
> > pmd/pud assumes when seeing a huge mapping it must be MAP_PRIVATE otherwise
> > the whole copy_page_range() could be already skipped.  IOW I think they
> > only need to process COWed pages here, and those pages require write bit
> > removed in both parent and child when fork().
> Is it also based on that there's no MAP_SHARED huge DEVMAP pages up to now?

Correct.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-11 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-26 20:43 [PATCH v2 00/19] mm: Support huge pfnmaps Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 01/19] mm: Introduce ARCH_SUPPORTS_HUGE_PFNMAP and special bits to pmd/pud Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 02/19] mm: Drop is_huge_zero_pud() Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 03/19] mm: Mark special bits for huge pfn mappings when inject Peter Xu
2024-08-28 15:31   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 04/19] mm: Allow THP orders for PFNMAPs Peter Xu
2024-08-28 15:31   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 05/19] mm/gup: Detect huge pfnmap entries in gup-fast Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 06/19] mm/pagewalk: Check pfnmap for folio_walk_start() Peter Xu
2024-08-28  7:44   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-28 14:24     ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28 15:30       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-28 19:45         ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28 23:46           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-29  6:35             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 18:45               ` Peter Xu
2024-08-29 15:10           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 18:49             ` Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 07/19] mm/fork: Accept huge pfnmap entries Peter Xu
2024-08-29 15:10   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 18:26     ` Peter Xu
2024-08-29 19:44       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 20:01         ` Peter Xu
2024-09-02  7:58   ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-03 21:23     ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 22:25       ` Andrew Morton
2024-09-09 22:43         ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 23:15           ` Andrew Morton
2024-09-10  0:08             ` Peter Xu
2024-09-10  2:52               ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-10 12:16                 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-11  2:16                   ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-11 14:34                     ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 08/19] mm: Always define pxx_pgprot() Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 09/19] mm: New follow_pfnmap API Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 10/19] KVM: Use " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 11/19] s390/pci_mmio: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 12/19] mm/x86/pat: Use the new " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 13/19] vfio: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 14/19] acrn: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 15/19] mm/access_process_vm: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 16/19] mm: Remove follow_pte() Peter Xu
2024-09-01  4:33   ` Yu Zhao
2024-09-01 13:39     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 17/19] mm/x86: Support large pfn mappings Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 18/19] mm/arm64: " Peter Xu
2025-03-19 22:22   ` Keith Busch
2025-03-19 22:46     ` Peter Xu
2025-03-19 22:53       ` Keith Busch
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 19/19] vfio/pci: Implement huge_fault support Peter Xu
2024-08-27 22:36 ` [PATCH v2 00/19] mm: Support huge pfnmaps Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-27 22:57   ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28  0:42     ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-28  0:46       ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-28 14:24       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-28 16:10         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-28 23:49           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-29 19:21             ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-04 15:52               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 16:38                 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-04 16:43                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 16:58                     ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-04 17:00                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 17:07                         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-09  3:56                           ` Ankit Agrawal
2024-08-28 14:41       ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28 16:23         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-09  4:03 ` Ankit Agrawal
2024-09-09 15:03   ` Peter Xu

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