From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Linu Cherian <linu.cherian@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC V1 00/16] arm64/mm: Enable 128 bit page table entries
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2026 16:44:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a77b39a4-c6dd-4a8a-8ea4-2bdc31bd3601@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260224051153.3150613-1-anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
On 2/24/26 06:11, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> FEAT_D128 is a new arm architecture feature adding support for VMSAv9-128
> translation system. FEAT_D128 is an optional feature from ARMV9.3 onwards.
> So with this feature arm64 platforms could have two different translation
> systems, VMSAv8-64 and VMSAv9-128 could selectively be enabled.
>
> FEAT_D128 adds 128 bit page table entries, thus supporting larger physical
> and virtual address range while also expanding available room for more MMU
> management feature bits both for HW and SW.
>
> This series has been split into two parts. Generic MM changes followed by
> arm64 platform changes, finally enabling D128 with a new config ARM64_D128.
>
> READ_ONCE() on page table entries get routed via level specific pxdp_get()
> helpers which platforms could then override when required. These accessors
> on arm64 platform help in ensuring page table accesses are performed in an
> atomic manner while reading 128 bit page table entries.
>
> All ARM64_VA_BITS and ARM64_PA_BITS combinations for all page sizes are now
> supported both on D64 and D128 translation regimes. Although new 56 bits VA
> space is not yet supported. Similarly FEAT_D128 skip level is not supported
> currently.
>
> Basic page table geometry has been changed with D128 as there are now fewer
> entries per level. Please refer to the following table for leaf entry sizes
>
> D64 D128
> ------------------------------------------------
> | PAGE_SIZE | PMD | PUD | PMD | PUD |
> -----------------------------|-----------------|
> | 4K | 2M | 1G | 1M | 256M |
> | 16K | 32M | 64G | 16M | 16G |
> | 64K | 512M | 4T | 256M | 1T |
> ------------------------------------------------
>
Interesting. That means user space will have it even harder to optimize
for THP sizes.
What's the effect on cont-pte? Do they still span the same number of
entries and there is effectively no change?
> From arm64 kernel features perspective KVM, KASAN and UNMAP_KERNEL_AT_EL0
> are currently not supported as well.
>
> Open Questions:
>
> - Do we need to support UNMAP_KERNEL_AT_EL0 with D128
> - Do we need to emulate traditional D64 sizes at PUD, PMD level with D128
It would certainly make user space interaction easier. But then, user
space already has to consider various PMD sizes (and is better of
querying /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hpage_pmd_size instead of
hardcoding it). s390x, for example, also has 1M PMD size.
I guess with "emulating" you mean something simple like always
allocating order-1 page tables that effectively have the same number of
page table entries?
The would be an option, but I recall that the pte_map_* infrastructure
currently expects that leaf page tables only ever span a single page.
So it wouldn't really give us a lot of easy benefit I guess.
--
Cheers,
David
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-07 14:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-24 5:11 [RFC V1 00/16] arm64/mm: Enable 128 bit page table entries Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 5:11 ` [RFC V1 01/16] mm: Abstract printing of pxd_val() Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-26 12:34 ` Usama Arif
2026-02-26 12:49 ` Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 5:11 ` [RFC V1 02/16] mm: Add read-write accessors for vm_page_prot Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 5:11 ` [RFC V1 03/16] mm: Replace READ_ONCE() in pud_trans_unstable() Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 5:11 ` [RFC V1 04/16] perf/events: Replace READ_ONCE() with standard pgtable accessors Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 8:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24 10:08 ` Mark Rutland
2026-02-24 10:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24 11:22 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-02-24 12:49 ` Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 12:39 ` Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 12:53 ` Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 5:11 ` [RFC V1 05/16] arm64/mm: Convert READ_ONCE() as pmdp_get() while accessing PMD Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 5:11 ` [RFC V1 06/16] arm64/mm: Convert READ_ONCE() as pudp_get() while accessing PUD Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 5:11 ` [RFC V1 07/16] arm64/mm: Convert READ_ONCE() as p4dp_get() while accessing P4D Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 5:11 ` [RFC V1 08/16] arm64/mm: Convert READ_ONCE() as pgdp_get() while accessing PGD Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 5:11 ` [RFC V1 09/16] arm64/mm: Route all pgtable reads via ptdesc_get() Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-28 11:17 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-03-02 4:34 ` Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 5:11 ` [RFC V1 10/16] arm64/mm: Route all pgtable writes via ptdesc_set() Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-26 12:37 ` Usama Arif
2026-02-26 12:54 ` Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-26 13:19 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-02-27 6:19 ` Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 5:11 ` [RFC V1 11/16] arm64/mm: Route all pgtable atomics to central helpers Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 5:11 ` [RFC V1 12/16] arm64/mm: Abstract printing of pxd_val() Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 5:11 ` [RFC V1 13/16] arm64/mm: Override read-write accessors for vm_page_prot Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 5:11 ` [RFC V1 14/16] arm64/mm: Enable fixmap with 5 level page table Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 5:11 ` [RFC V1 15/16] arm64/mm: Add macros __tlb_asid_level and __tlb_range Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-24 5:11 ` [RFC V1 16/16] arm64/mm: Add initial support for FEAT_D128 page tables Anshuman Khandual
2026-02-26 14:10 ` Usama Arif
2026-04-07 14:44 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
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