From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 15/16] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add user-space use support
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 11:31:29 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aAkyAbO5UQRySizN@Asurada-Nvidia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250423115551.GC1648741@nvidia.com>
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 08:55:51AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 08:05:49AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>
> > It's not a good idea having the kernel trust the VMM.
>
> It certainly shouldn't trust it, but it can validate the VMM's choice
> and generate a failure if it isn't good.
>
> > Also I'm not
> > sure the contiguity is guaranteed all the time with huge page
> > (e.g. if just using THP).
>
> If things are aligned then the contiguity will work out. Ie a 64K
> aligned allocation on a 2M GPA is fine. I don't think there are
> edge cases where a GPA will be fragmented. It does rely on the VMM
> always getting some kind of huge page and then pinning it in iommufd.
With QEMU that does ensure the alignment when using system huge
pages, I haven't seen any edge problem yet.
> IMHO this is bad HW design, but it is what it is..
>
> > btw does smmu only read the cmdq or also update some fields
> > in the queue? If the latter, then it also brings a security hole
> > as a malicious VMM could violate the contiguity requirement
> > to instruct the smmu to touch pages which don't belong to
> > it...
>
> This really must be prevented. I haven't looked closely here, but the
> GPA -> PA mapping should go through the IOAS and that should generate
> a page list and that should be validated for contiguity.
>
> It also needs to act like a mdev and lock down the part of the IOAS
> that provides that memory so the pin can't be released and UAF things.
If I capture this correctly, the GPA->PA mapping is already done
at the IOAS level for the S2 HWPT/domain, i.e. pages are already
pinned. So we just need to a pair of for-driver APIs to validate
the contiguity and refcount pages calling iopt_area_add_access().
Thanks
Nicolin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-23 18:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-11 6:37 [PATCH v1 00/16] iommufd: Add vIOMMU infrastructure (Part-4 vCMDQ) Nicolin Chen
2025-04-11 6:37 ` [PATCH v1 01/16] iommu: Pass in a driver-level user data structure to viommu_alloc op Nicolin Chen
2025-04-23 13:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-11 6:37 ` [PATCH v1 02/16] iommufd/viommu: Allow driver-specific user data for a vIOMMU object Nicolin Chen
2025-04-23 13:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-11 6:37 ` [PATCH v1 03/16] iommu: Add iommu_copy_struct_to_user helper Nicolin Chen
2025-04-11 12:35 ` ALOK TIWARI
2025-04-14 18:03 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-14 15:25 ` Matt Ochs
2025-04-14 18:01 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-23 13:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-11 6:37 ` [PATCH v1 04/16] iommufd: Add iommufd_struct_destroy to revert iommufd_viommu_alloc Nicolin Chen
2025-04-23 13:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-11 6:37 ` [PATCH v1 05/16] iommufd/selftest: Support user_data in mock_viommu_alloc Nicolin Chen
2025-04-11 6:37 ` [PATCH v1 06/16] iommufd/selftest: Add covearge for viommu data Nicolin Chen
2025-04-11 6:37 ` [PATCH v1 07/16] iommufd/viommu: Add driver-allocated vDEVICE support Nicolin Chen
2025-04-21 8:00 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-04-21 15:35 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-23 13:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-11 6:37 ` [PATCH v1 08/16] iommufd/viommu: Introduce IOMMUFD_OBJ_VCMDQ and its related struct Nicolin Chen
2025-04-21 8:03 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-04-21 15:38 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-11 6:37 ` [PATCH v1 09/16] iommufd/viommmu: Add IOMMUFD_CMD_VCMDQ_ALLOC ioctl Nicolin Chen
2025-04-21 8:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-04-21 15:42 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-11 6:37 ` [PATCH v1 10/16] iommufd: Add mmap interface Nicolin Chen
2025-04-21 8:16 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-04-21 17:23 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-21 17:45 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-11 6:37 ` [PATCH v1 11/16] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for the new " Nicolin Chen
2025-04-11 6:37 ` [PATCH v1 12/16] Documentation: userspace-api: iommufd: Update vCMDQ Nicolin Chen
2025-04-11 6:37 ` [PATCH v1 13/16] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Use request_threaded_irq Nicolin Chen
2025-04-11 6:37 ` [PATCH v1 14/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add vsmmu_alloc impl op Nicolin Chen
2025-04-21 8:23 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-04-21 17:47 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-11 6:37 ` [PATCH v1 15/16] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add user-space use support Nicolin Chen
2025-04-21 8:37 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-04-21 19:14 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-23 8:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-04-23 11:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-23 18:31 ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2025-04-23 23:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-24 6:51 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-24 8:04 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-04-24 13:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-24 15:46 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-11 6:37 ` [PATCH v1 16/16] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add IOMMU_VEVENTQ_TYPE_TEGRA241_CMDQV support Nicolin Chen
2025-04-23 7:28 ` [PATCH v1 00/16] iommufd: Add vIOMMU infrastructure (Part-4 vCMDQ) Vasant Hegde
2025-04-23 7:45 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-24 11:21 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-04-24 8:21 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-04-24 15:54 ` Nicolin Chen
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