From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Tze-nan Wu <Tze-nan.Wu@mediatek.com>
Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org, bobule.chang@mediatek.com,
wsd_upstream@mediatek.com,
Cheng-jui Wang <cheng-jui.wang@mediatek.com>,
Lorry.Luo@mediatek.com, weiyangyang@vivo.com,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org>,
Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>,
Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
"Joel Fernandes (Google)" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rcu: Fix delayed execution of hurry callbacks
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2025 15:34:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aHj79rtgLm-7tT9E@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250717055341.246468-1-Tze-nan.Wu@mediatek.com>
Le Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 01:53:38PM +0800, Tze-nan Wu a écrit :
> We observed a regression in our customer’s environment after enabling
> CONFIG_LAZY_RCU. In the Android Update Engine scenario, where ioctl() is
> used heavily, we found that callbacks queued via call_rcu_hurry (such as
> percpu_ref_switch_to_atomic_rcu) can sometimes be delayed by up to 5
> seconds before execution. This occurs because the new grace period does
> not start immediately after the previous one completes.
>
> The root cause is that the wake_nocb_gp_defer() function now checks
> "rdp->nocb_defer_wakeup" instead of "rdp_gp->nocb_defer_wakeup". On CPUs
> that are not rcuog, "rdp->nocb_defer_wakeup" may always be
> RCU_NOCB_WAKE_NOT. This can cause "rdp_gp->nocb_defer_wakeup" to be
> downgraded and the "rdp_gp->nocb_timer" to be postponed by up to 10
> seconds, delaying the execution of hurry RCU callbacks.
>
> The trace log of one scenario we encountered is as follow:
> // previous GP ends at this point
> rcu_preempt [000] d..1. 137.240210: rcu_grace_period: rcu_preempt 8369 end
> rcu_preempt [000] ..... 137.240212: rcu_grace_period: rcu_preempt 8372 reqwait
> // call_rcu_hurry enqueues "percpu_ref_switch_to_atomic_rcu", the callback waited on by UpdateEngine
> update_engine [002] d..1. 137.301593: __call_rcu_common: wyy: unlikely p_ref = 00000000********. lazy = 0
> // FirstQ on cpu 2 rdp_gp->nocb_timer is set to fire after 1 jiffy (4ms)
> // and the rdp_gp->nocb_defer_wakeup is set to RCU_NOCB_WAKE
> update_engine [002] d..2. 137.301595: rcu_nocb_wake: rcu_preempt 2 FirstQ on cpu2 with rdp_gp (cpu0).
> // FirstBQ event on cpu2 during the 1 jiffy, make the timer postpond 10 seconds later.
> // also, the rdp_gp->nocb_defer_wakeup is overwrite to RCU_NOCB_WAKE_LAZY
> update_engine [002] d..1. 137.301601: rcu_nocb_wake: rcu_preempt 2 WakeEmptyIsDeferred
> ...
> ...
> ...
> // before the 10 seconds timeout, cpu0 received another call_rcu_hurry
> // reset the timer to jiffies+1 and set the waketype = RCU_NOCB_WAKE.
> kworker/u32:0 [000] d..2. 142.557564: rcu_nocb_wake: rcu_preempt 0 FirstQ
> kworker/u32:0 [000] d..1. 142.557576: rcu_nocb_wake: rcu_preempt 0 WakeEmptyIsDeferred
> kworker/u32:0 [000] d..1. 142.558296: rcu_nocb_wake: rcu_preempt 0 WakeNot
> kworker/u32:0 [000] d..1. 142.558562: rcu_nocb_wake: rcu_preempt 0 WakeNot
> // idle(do_nocb_deferred_wakeup) wake rcuog due to waketype == RCU_NOCB_WAKE
> <idle> [000] d..1. 142.558786: rcu_nocb_wake: rcu_preempt 0 DoWake
> <idle> [000] dN.1. 142.558839: rcu_nocb_wake: rcu_preempt 0 DeferredWake
> rcuog/0 [000] ..... 142.558871: rcu_nocb_wake: rcu_preempt 0 EndSleep
> rcuog/0 [000] ..... 142.558877: rcu_nocb_wake: rcu_preempt 0 Check
> // finally rcuog request a new GP at this point (5 seconds after the FirstQ event)
> rcuog/0 [000] d..2. 142.558886: rcu_grace_period: rcu_preempt 8372 newreq
> rcu_preempt [001] d..1. 142.559458: rcu_grace_period: rcu_preempt 8373 start
> ...
> rcu_preempt [000] d..1. 142.564258: rcu_grace_period: rcu_preempt 8373 end
> rcuop/2 [000] D..1. 142.566337: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=219 bl=10
> // the hurry CB is invoked at this point
> rcuop/2 [000] b.... 142.566352: blk_queue_usage_counter_release: wyy: wakeup. p_ref = 00000000********.
>
> This patch changes the condition to check "rdp_gp->nocb_defer_wakeup" in
> the lazy path. This prevents an already scheduled "rdp_gp->nocb_timer"
> from being postponed and avoids overwriting "rdp_gp->nocb_defer_wakeup"
> when it is not RCU_NOCB_WAKE_NOT.
>
> Fixes: 3cb278e73be5 ("rcu: Make call_rcu() lazy to save power")
> Co-developed-by: Cheng-jui Wang <cheng-jui.wang@mediatek.com>
> Signed-off-by: Cheng-jui Wang <cheng-jui.wang@mediatek.com>
> Co-developed-by: Lorry.Luo@mediatek.com
> Signed-off-by: Lorry.Luo@mediatek.com
> Tested-by: weiyangyang@vivo.com
> Signed-off-by: weiyangyang@vivo.com
> Signed-off-by: Tze-nan Wu <Tze-nan.Wu@mediatek.com>
> ---
> The regression is first observed by wyy in the Update Engine scenario
> with CONFIG_LAZY_RCU enabled. there is an additional delay of 4–5
> seconds during the heavy ioctl API call, waiting for
> percpu_ref_switch_to_atomic_rcu (RCU hurry CB) to complete.
>
> Initially, we suspected that the percpu_ref_switch_to_atomic_rcu
> function itself was taking too long. However, after enabling some
> custome and the following trace events: rcu_do_batch, rcu_nocb_wake, and
> rcu_grace_period. we found that the root cause was that rcuog was not
> being woken up in time to request a new GP. This led to the delay in
> invoking the hurry RCU callback (percpu_ref_switch_to_atomic_rcu).
>
> Environment:
> Android-16, Kernel: 6.12, 8 CPUs (ARM)
>
> Configuration:
> CONFIG_TREE_RCU=y
> CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU=y
> CONFIG_LAZY_RCU=y
> CONFIG_RCU_NOCB_CPU=y
> CONFIG_RCU_NOCB_CPU_DEFAULT_ALL=y
> rcu_nocb_gp_stride = -1 (default is 4 for 8 cores)
> jiffies_lazy_flush = 10 * HZ
>
> Contributions:
> Tze-Nan Wu:
> Collaborated with Cheng-Jui to discuss which tracepoints needed to be
> added, jointly analyzed the trace logs, identified the root cause, and
> proposed this upstream change.
>
> Cheng-Jui Wang:
> Provided many valuable suggestions during the debugging process,
> repeatedly found breakthroughs when we were stuck, and helped identify
> the root cause.
>
> Lorry Luo:
> Assisted in verifying whether rcu-hurry-callback was executed too long
> or deferred, supported with testing, and helped with communication.
>
> Weiyangyang:
> Main tester who discovered the regression scenario, confirmed that
> enabling CONFIG_LAZY_RCU caused the regression, and verified that this
> patch resolves the issue
Nice team work :-)
>
> Note:
> With my limited understanding of lazy RCU, I am not fully confident that
> this is a real issue. In my opinion, hurry callbacks should not be
> delayed by other events such as firstBQ trace event.
> If my understanding is incorrect, I would greatly appreciate any
> guidance or clarification from the maintainers.
Your understanding looks quite right!
Reviewed-by: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Since the issue is there for 3 years now and was introduced with
the CONFIG_LAZY_RCU new feature, it can probably wait a few weeks
for the next merge window.
--
Frederic Weisbecker
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-17 14:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-17 5:53 [PATCH] rcu: Fix delayed execution of hurry callbacks Tze-nan Wu
2025-07-17 13:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2025-07-18 9:10 ` Tze-nan Wu (吳澤南)
2025-07-23 14:32 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-07-24 2:49 ` Tze-nan Wu (吳澤南)
2025-07-24 5:27 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
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