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From: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
To: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
Cc: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>,
	jgg@nvidia.com, will@kernel.org, joro@8bytes.org,
	robin.murphy@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Replace vsmmu_size/type with get_viommu_size
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 18:12:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aIPI9xv-HxTPWMUp@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aIOvt+atxTQp57R/@Asurada-Nvidia>

On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 09:24:23AM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 09:18:35AM +0000, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 01:37:53PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 01:04:44PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > > Had the
> > > > vintf_size rejected it, we wouldn't be calling the init op.
> > > 
> > > A data corruption could happen any time, not related to the
> > > init op. A concurrent buggy thread can overwrite the vIOMMU
> > > object when a write access to its adjacent memory overflows.
> > 
> > Can you please elaborate on that, as memory corruption can happen
> > any time event after the next check and there is no way to defend
> > against that?
> 
> That narrative is under a condition (in the context) "when there
> is a kernel bug corrupting data" :)
> 
> E.g. some new lines of code allocates a wrong size of memory and
> writes above the size. If that memory is near this vIOMMU object
> it might overwrite to this vIOMMU object that this function gets.
> 
> This certainly won't happen if everything is sane.

I see, but I don't think we should do anything about that, there are
100s of structs in the kernel, we can't add checks everywhere, and I
don't see anything special about this path to add an assertion, this
kind of defensive programming isn't really helpful. We just need to
review any new code properly :)

Thanks,
Mostafa

> 
> Nicolin


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-25 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-21 20:04 [PATCH v3 0/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Two vsmmu impl_ops cleanups Nicolin Chen
2025-07-21 20:04 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Do not bother impl_ops if IOMMU_VIOMMU_TYPE_ARM_SMMUV3 Nicolin Chen
2025-07-23 13:19   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-21 20:04 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Replace vsmmu_size/type with get_viommu_size Nicolin Chen
2025-07-23 13:37   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-23 18:05     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-23 18:58       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-24 20:55         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-24 21:49           ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-25  5:11             ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-25 16:03               ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-25 17:47                 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-25  9:18             ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-25 16:24               ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-25 18:12                 ` Mostafa Saleh [this message]
2025-07-25 19:01                   ` Nicolin Chen

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