From: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: catalin.marinas@arm.com, broonie@kernel.org, maz@kernel.org,
oliver.upton@linux.dev, joey.gouly@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com,
ardb@kernel.org, scott@os.amperecomputing.com,
suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com,
mark.rutland@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v7 6/6] arm64: futex: support futex with FEAT_LSUI
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 17:45:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aML8rpygzJhs/JQr@e129823.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aMLpMBWtHDI9sPHK@willie-the-truck>
Hi Will,
> > Current futex atomic operations are implemented with ll/sc instructions
> > and clearing PSTATE.PAN.
> >
> > Since Armv9.6, FEAT_LSUI supplies not only load/store instructions but
> > also atomic operation for user memory access in kernel it doesn't need
> > to clear PSTATE.PAN bit anymore.
> >
> > With theses instructions some of futex atomic operations don't need to
> > be implmented with ldxr/stlxr pair instead can be implmented with
> > one atomic operation supplied by FEAT_LSUI.
> >
> > However, some of futex atomic operations still need to use ll/sc way
> > via ldtxr/stltxr supplied by FEAT_LSUI since there is no correspondant
> > atomic instruction or doesn't support word size operation.
> > (i.e) eor, cas{mb}t
> >
> > But It's good to work without clearing PSTATE.PAN bit.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>
> > ---
> > arch/arm64/include/asm/futex.h | 130 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > 1 file changed, 129 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/futex.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/futex.h
> > index 22a6301a9f3d..ece35ca9b5d9 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/futex.h
> > +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/futex.h
> > @@ -9,6 +9,8 @@
> > #include <linux/uaccess.h>
> > #include <linux/stringify.h>
> >
> > +#include <asm/alternative.h>
> > +#include <asm/alternative-macros.h>
> > #include <asm/errno.h>
> >
> > #define LLSC_MAX_LOOPS 128 /* What's the largest number you can think of? */
> > @@ -115,11 +117,137 @@ __llsc_futex_cmpxchg(u32 __user *uaddr, u32 oldval, u32 newval, u32 *oval)
> > return ret;
> > }
> >
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_AS_HAS_LSUI
> > +
> > +#define __LSUI_PREAMBLE ".arch_extension lsui\n"
> > +
> > +#define LSUI_FUTEX_ATOMIC_OP(op, asm_op, mb) \
> > +static __always_inline int \
> > +__lsui_futex_atomic_##op(int oparg, u32 __user *uaddr, int *oval) \
> > +{ \
> > + int ret = 0; \
> > + int oldval; \
> > + \
> > + uaccess_ttbr0_enable(); \
> > + asm volatile("// __lsui_futex_atomic_" #op "\n" \
> > + __LSUI_PREAMBLE \
> > +"1: " #asm_op #mb " %w3, %w2, %1\n" \
> > +"2:\n" \
> > + _ASM_EXTABLE_UACCESS_ERR(1b, 2b, %w0) \
> > + : "+r" (ret), "+Q" (*uaddr), "=r" (oldval) \
> > + : "r" (oparg) \
> > + : "memory"); \
> > + uaccess_ttbr0_disable(); \
> > + \
> > + if (!ret) \
> > + *oval = oldval; \
> > + \
> > + return ret; \
> > +}
> > +
> > +LSUI_FUTEX_ATOMIC_OP(add, ldtadd, al)
> > +LSUI_FUTEX_ATOMIC_OP(or, ldtset, al)
> > +LSUI_FUTEX_ATOMIC_OP(andnot, ldtclr, al)
> > +LSUI_FUTEX_ATOMIC_OP(set, swpt, al)
> > +
> > +static __always_inline int
> > +__lsui_futex_atomic_and(int oparg, u32 __user *uaddr, int *oval)
> > +{
> > + return __lsui_futex_atomic_andnot(~oparg, uaddr, oval);
> > +}
> > +
> > +static __always_inline int
> > +__lsui_futex_atomic_eor(int oparg, u32 __user *uaddr, int *oval)
> > +{
> > + unsigned int loops = LLSC_MAX_LOOPS;
> > + int ret, oldval, tmp;
> > +
> > + uaccess_ttbr0_enable();
> > + /*
> > + * there are no ldteor/stteor instructions...
> > + */
>
> *sigh*
>
> Were these new instructions not added with futex in mind?
rather than the futex, this seems to be designed for atomic_op()...
(like user version of LSE)...
That's why it seems no "eor" for this...
> I wonder whether CAS would be better than exclusives for xor...
>
> > +static __always_inline int
> > +__lsui_futex_cmpxchg(u32 __user *uaddr, u32 oldval, u32 newval, u32 *oval)
> > +{
> > + int ret = 0;
> > + unsigned int loops = LLSC_MAX_LOOPS;
> > + u32 val, tmp;
> > +
> > + uaccess_ttbr0_enable();
> > + /*
> > + * cas{al}t doesn't support word size...
> > + */
>
> What about just aligning down and doing a 64-bit cas in that case?
Though it applies with cas{al}t applying to
futex_eor() and futex_cmpxchg(), I think it still need to compare with
old value is the same at the time of load. that means the routine will
be the same for LLSC way like:
again:
oldval = uaddr;
oldval2 = oldval
cas uaddr, oldval2, newval
if (oldval != oldval2)
goto again;
with the CAS feature, try cmpxchg if old was different,
returns -EAGAIN immediately seems not the same beheavior with
former __llsc_futext_atomic_op().
This patch's intension is "not to change former beheavior"
but removing change of PSTATE only.
If this beheavior change is allowed,
I'll replace them with CAS one with delight :
Thanks!
--
Sincerely,
Yeoreum Yun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-11 16:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-16 15:19 [PATCH RESEND v7 0/6] support FEAT_LSUI and apply it on futex atomic ops Yeoreum Yun
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 1/6] arm64: cpufeature: add FEAT_LSUI Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:12 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 2/6] KVM: arm64: expose FEAT_LSUI to guest Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 3/6] arm64: Kconfig: add LSUI Kconfig Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:24 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 10:42 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-15 11:32 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-15 11:41 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 4/6] arm64: futex: refactor futex atomic operation Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-11 15:38 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-11 16:04 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:44 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-12 17:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 10:39 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:53 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 10:32 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-15 19:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 20:35 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-16 7:02 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-16 9:15 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 9:24 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 10:02 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 10:16 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-16 12:50 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-17 9:32 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 12:47 ` Mark Rutland
2025-09-16 13:27 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 13:45 ` Mark Rutland
2025-09-16 13:58 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 14:07 ` Mark Rutland
2025-09-16 14:15 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-15 22:34 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 12:53 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH v7 RESEND 5/6] arm64: futex: small optimisation for __llsc_futex_atomic_set() Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-11 15:28 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-11 16:19 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:36 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 10:41 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 6/6] arm64: futex: support futex with FEAT_LSUI Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-11 15:22 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-11 16:45 ` Yeoreum Yun [this message]
2025-09-12 17:16 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 9:15 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 17:09 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 8:24 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-01 10:06 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 0/6] support FEAT_LSUI and apply it on futex atomic ops Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-11 15:09 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-11 16:22 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 20:37 ` Will Deacon
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