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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
Cc: Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	arnd@arndb.de, will@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mark.rutland@arm.com,
	harisokn@amazon.com, cl@gentwo.org, ast@kernel.org,
	zhenglifeng1@huawei.com, xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com,
	joao.m.martins@oracle.com, boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
	konrad.wilk@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 5/5] rqspinlock: Use smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout()
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 11:14:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMPyiKuzGh4L4gD8@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o6rgk5xd.fsf@oracle.com>

On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 02:58:22PM -0700, Ankur Arora wrote:
> 
> Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, 11 Sept 2025 at 16:32, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 08:46:55PM -0700, Ankur Arora wrote:
> >> > Switch out the conditional load inerfaces used by rqspinlock
> >> > to smp_cond_read_acquire_timeout().
> >> > This interface handles the timeout check explicitly and does any
> >> > necessary amortization, so use check_timeout() directly.
> >>
> >> It's worth mentioning that the default smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout()
> >> implementation (without hardware support) only spins 200 times instead
> >> of 16K times in the rqspinlock code. That's probably fine but it would
> >> be good to have confirmation from Kumar or Alexei.
> >>
> >
> > This looks good, but I would still redefine the spin count from 200 to
> > 16k for rqspinlock.c, especially because we need to keep
> > RES_CHECK_TIMEOUT around which still uses 16k spins to amortize
> > check_timeout.
> 
> By my count that amounts to ~100us per check_timeout() on x86
> systems I've tested with cpu_relax(). Which seems quite reasonable.
> 
> 16k also seems safer on CPUs where cpu_relax() is basically a NOP.

Does this spin count work for poll_idle()? I don't remember where the
200 value came from.

-- 
Catalin


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-12 10:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-11  3:46 [PATCH v5 0/5] barrier: Add smp_cond_load_*_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-09-11  3:46 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-09-18 19:42   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-19 23:41     ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-22 10:47       ` Will Deacon
2025-09-11  3:46 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] arm64: " Ankur Arora
2025-09-18 20:05   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-19 16:18     ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-19 22:39       ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-11  3:46 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] arm64: rqspinlock: Remove private copy of smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait Ankur Arora
2025-09-11  3:46 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-09-11  3:46 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] rqspinlock: Use smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-09-11 14:32   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-11 18:54     ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-09-11 21:58       ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-12 10:14         ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2025-09-12 18:06           ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-11 18:56     ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-09-11 21:57     ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-11 14:34 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] barrier: Add smp_cond_load_*_timeout() Catalin Marinas
2025-09-11 21:57   ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-15 11:12     ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-16  5:29       ` Ankur Arora

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