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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>,
	broonie@kernel.org, maz@kernel.org, oliver.upton@linux.dev,
	joey.gouly@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com, ardb@kernel.org,
	scott@os.amperecomputing.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com,
	yuzenghui@huawei.com, mark.rutland@arm.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v7 4/6] arm64: futex: refactor futex atomic operation
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 08:02:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMkLb6jPiSbzeRWL@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aMh4q4-xAPHnaOul@willie-the-truck>

On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 09:35:55PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 08:40:33PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 11:32:39AM +0100, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
> > > So I think it would be better to keep the current LLSC implementation
> > > in LSUI.
> > 
> > I think the code would look simpler with LL/SC but you can give it a try
> > and post the code sample here (not in a new series).
> 
> If you stick the cas*t instruction in its own helper say, cmpxchg_user(),
> then you can do all the shifting/masking in C and I don't reckon it's
> that bad. It means we (a) get rid of exclusives, which is the whole
> point of this and (b) don't have to mess around with PAN.

We get rid of PAN toggling already since FEAT_LSUI introduces
LDTXR/STTXR. But, I'm all for CAS if it doesn't look too bad. Easier
I think if we do a get_user() of a u64 and combine it with the futex u32
while taking care of CPU endianness. All in a loop. Hopefully the
compiler is smart enough to reduce masking/or'ing to fewer instructions.

-- 
Catalin


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-16  7:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-16 15:19 [PATCH RESEND v7 0/6] support FEAT_LSUI and apply it on futex atomic ops Yeoreum Yun
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 1/6] arm64: cpufeature: add FEAT_LSUI Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:12   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 2/6] KVM: arm64: expose FEAT_LSUI to guest Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:25   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 3/6] arm64: Kconfig: add LSUI Kconfig Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:24   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 10:42     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-15 11:32       ` Will Deacon
2025-09-15 11:41         ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 4/6] arm64: futex: refactor futex atomic operation Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-11 15:38   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-11 16:04     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:44   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-12 17:01     ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 10:39     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:53   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 10:32     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-15 19:40       ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 20:35         ` Will Deacon
2025-09-16  7:02           ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2025-09-16  9:15             ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16  9:24               ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 10:02             ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 10:16               ` Will Deacon
2025-09-16 12:50                 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-17  9:32                   ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 12:47               ` Mark Rutland
2025-09-16 13:27                 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 13:45                   ` Mark Rutland
2025-09-16 13:58                     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 14:07                       ` Mark Rutland
2025-09-16 14:15                         ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-15 22:34         ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 12:53           ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH v7 RESEND 5/6] arm64: futex: small optimisation for __llsc_futex_atomic_set() Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-11 15:28   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-11 16:19     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:36       ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 10:41         ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 6/6] arm64: futex: support futex with FEAT_LSUI Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-11 15:22   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-11 16:45     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 17:16     ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15  9:15       ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 17:09   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15  8:24     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-01 10:06 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 0/6] support FEAT_LSUI and apply it on futex atomic ops Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-11 15:09 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-11 16:22   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 20:37     ` Will Deacon

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