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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Yicong Yang <yangyicong@huawei.com>
Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	sudeep.holla@arm.com, james.clark@linaro.org, robh@kernel.org,
	anshuman.khandual@arm.com, jonathan.cameron@huawei.com,
	hejunhao3@huawei.com, linuxarm@huawei.com,
	prime.zeng@hisilicon.com, xuwei5@huawei.com,
	wangyushan12@huawei.com, yangyicong@hisilicon.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] perf: arm_pmuv3: Don't use PMCCNTR_EL0 on SMT cores
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 14:32:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMwJ5FpGRmsyhQuZ@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250820084534.28037-3-yangyicong@huawei.com>

On Wed, Aug 20, 2025 at 04:45:34PM +0800, Yicong Yang wrote:
> From: Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>
> 
> CPU_CYCLES is expected to count the logical CPU (PE) clock. Currently it's
> preferred to use PMCCNTR_EL0 for counting CPU_CYCLES, but it'll count
> processor clock rather than the PE clock (ARM DDI0487 L.b D13.1.3) if
> one of the SMT siblings is not idle on a multi-threaded implementation.
> So don't use it on SMT cores.
> 
> Introduce topology_core_has_smt() for knowing the SMT implementation and
> cached it in arm_pmu::has_smt during allocation.
> 
> When counting cycles on SMT CPU 2-3 and CPU 3 is idle, without this
> patch we'll get:
> [root@client1 tmp]# perf stat -e cycles -A -C 2-3 -- stress-ng -c 1
> --taskset 2 --timeout 1
> [...]
>  Performance counter stats for 'CPU(s) 2-3':
> 
> CPU2           2880457316      cycles
> CPU3           2880459810      cycles
>        1.254688470 seconds time elapsed
> 
> With this patch the idle state of CPU3 is observed as expected:
> [root@client1 ~]#  perf stat -e cycles -A -C 2-3 -- stress-ng -c 1
> --taskset 2 --timeout 1
> [...]
>  Performance counter stats for 'CPU(s) 2-3':
> 
> CPU2           2558580492      cycles
> CPU3               305749      cycles
>        1.113626410 seconds time elapsed
> 
> Signed-off-by: Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>
> ---
>  drivers/perf/arm_pmu.c        |  3 +++
>  drivers/perf/arm_pmuv3.c      | 10 ++++++++++
>  include/linux/arch_topology.h | 11 +++++++++++
>  include/linux/perf/arm_pmu.h  |  1 +
>  4 files changed, 25 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/perf/arm_pmu.c b/drivers/perf/arm_pmu.c
> index 5c310e803dd7..137ef55d6973 100644
> --- a/drivers/perf/arm_pmu.c
> +++ b/drivers/perf/arm_pmu.c
> @@ -901,6 +901,9 @@ struct arm_pmu *armpmu_alloc(void)
>  
>  		events = per_cpu_ptr(pmu->hw_events, cpu);
>  		events->percpu_pmu = pmu;
> +
> +		if (!pmu->has_smt && topology_core_has_smt(cpu))
> +			pmu->has_smt = true;

Why isn't that just:

	pmu->has_smt = topology_core_has_smt(cpu);

?

but then if that's the case, why do we need to stash the result in the
PMU at all?

>  	}
>  
>  	return pmu;
> diff --git a/drivers/perf/arm_pmuv3.c b/drivers/perf/arm_pmuv3.c
> index 69c5cc8f5606..32b58a0feb33 100644
> --- a/drivers/perf/arm_pmuv3.c
> +++ b/drivers/perf/arm_pmuv3.c
> @@ -981,6 +981,7 @@ static int armv8pmu_get_chain_idx(struct pmu_hw_events *cpuc,
>  static bool armv8pmu_can_use_pmccntr(struct pmu_hw_events *cpuc,
>  				     struct perf_event *event)
>  {
> +	struct arm_pmu *cpu_pmu = to_arm_pmu(event->pmu);
>  	struct hw_perf_event *hwc = &event->hw;
>  	unsigned long evtype = hwc->config_base & ARMV8_PMU_EVTYPE_EVENT;
>  
> @@ -1001,6 +1002,15 @@ static bool armv8pmu_can_use_pmccntr(struct pmu_hw_events *cpuc,
>  	if (has_branch_stack(event))
>  		return false;
>  
> +	/*
> +	 * The PMCCNTR_EL0 increments from the processor clock rather than
> +	 * the PE clock (ARM DDI0487 L.b D13.1.3) which means it'll continue
> +	 * counting on a WFI PE if one of its SMT silbing is not idle on a

typo: sibling

> +	 * multi-threaded implementation. So don't use it on SMT cores.
> +	 */
> +	if (cpu_pmu->has_smt)
> +		return false;
> +
>  	return true;
>  }
>  
> diff --git a/include/linux/arch_topology.h b/include/linux/arch_topology.h
> index d72d6e5aa200..daa1af2e8204 100644
> --- a/include/linux/arch_topology.h
> +++ b/include/linux/arch_topology.h
> @@ -89,6 +89,17 @@ void remove_cpu_topology(unsigned int cpuid);
>  void reset_cpu_topology(void);
>  int parse_acpi_topology(void);
>  void freq_inv_set_max_ratio(int cpu, u64 max_rate);
> +
> +/*
> + * Architectures like ARM64 don't have reliable architectural way to get SMT
> + * information and depend on the firmware (ACPI/OF) report. Non-SMT core won't
> + * initialize thread_id so we can use this to detect the SMT implementation.
> + */
> +static inline bool topology_core_has_smt(int cpu)
> +{
> +	return cpu_topology[cpu].thread_id != -1;
> +}

Sudeep -- is this ok?

Will


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-18 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-20  8:45 [PATCH v2 0/2] perf: arm_pmuv3: Don't use PMCCNTR_EL0 on SMT cores Yicong Yang
2025-08-20  8:45 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] perf: arm_pmuv3: Factor out PMCCNTR_EL0 use conditions Yicong Yang
2025-08-20  8:45 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] perf: arm_pmuv3: Don't use PMCCNTR_EL0 on SMT cores Yicong Yang
2025-09-18 13:32   ` Will Deacon [this message]
2025-09-19  8:56     ` Yicong Yang
2025-09-19  9:16       ` Mark Rutland
2025-09-19 10:27         ` Yicong Yang
2025-09-19 11:17           ` Will Deacon
2025-09-19  9:37     ` Sudeep Holla
2025-09-19 11:18       ` Will Deacon
2025-09-08  7:09 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] " Yicong Yang
2025-09-18 16:43 ` Will Deacon

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