From: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
maz@kernel.org, oliver.upton@linux.dev, joey.gouly@arm.com,
suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com,
catalin.marinas@arm.com, robin.murphy@arm.com,
jean-philippe@linaro.org, qperret@google.com, tabba@google.com,
mark.rutland@arm.com, praan@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 15/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Load the driver later in KVM mode
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2025 11:10:11 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aNppE9A3PDiDg_1W@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250923173806.GF2547959@ziepe.ca>
On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 02:38:06PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 02:35:48PM +0000, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> > If we really want to avoid the current approach, we can keep deferring probe,
> > until a check for a new flag set from “finalize_pkvm” which is called
> > unconditionally of KVM state.
>
> I still think the pkvm drivers should be bound to some special pkvm
> device_driver and the driver core should handle all this special
> dancing:
> - Wait for pkvm to decide if it will start or not
> - Claim a device for pkvm and make it visible in some generic way,eg
> in sysfs
> - Fall back to using the normal driver once we conclude pkvm won't
> run.
>
> It sounds like a pain to open code all this logic in every pkvm
> driver? How many do you have?
I though more about this, I think involving the driver core will be
useful in the future for init, as it will ensure power domains are
probed before the SMMUs when RPM is supported.
One simple way to do that, is the make the KVM SMMUv3 driver bind to
the SMMUs first until KVM finish init, then it unbinds them so the
main driver can be bind to them, that will not require any changes
or assumptions from the main driver, but in runtime the KVM driver
can't interact with the driver model.
Another possible solution, to keep a device bound to the KVM driver,
is to probe the SMMUs from the KVM driver, then to create child devices;
possibly use something as device_set_of_node_from_dev to bind those to
the main SMMUv3 or find another way to probe the main SMMUv3 without
changes.
Then we have a clear parent/child representation in the kernel, we can
also use sysfs/debugfs. But this might be more challenging, I will
look more into both and will update the logic in v5.
Thanks,
Mostafa
>
> Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-29 11:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-19 21:51 [PATCH v4 00/28] KVM: arm64: SMMUv3 driver for pKVM (trap and emulate) Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 01/28] KVM: arm64: Add a new function to donate memory with prot Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-09 13:46 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-14 19:23 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-09-16 11:58 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-16 11:56 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 02/28] KVM: arm64: Donate MMIO to the hypervisor Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-09 14:12 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-16 13:27 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-26 14:33 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-29 10:57 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-14 20:41 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-09-16 13:43 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 03/28] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Add pkvm_time_get() Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-09 14:16 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-09 15:56 ` Marc Zyngier
2025-09-15 11:10 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-09-16 14:04 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 04/28] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Move selftests to a separate file Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-15 14:37 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-09-16 14:07 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-15 16:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-16 14:09 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 05/28] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Factor kernel specific code out Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 06/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Split code with hyp Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-09 14:23 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-16 14:10 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 07/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move TLB range invalidation into a macro Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-09 14:25 ` Will Deacon
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 08/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move IDR parsing to common functions Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 09/28] KVM: arm64: iommu: Introduce IOMMU driver infrastructure Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 10/28] KVM: arm64: iommu: Shadow host stage-2 page table Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-09 14:42 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-16 14:24 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-26 14:42 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-29 11:01 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-30 12:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-30 12:55 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 11/28] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add memory pool Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 12/28] KVM: arm64: iommu: Support DABT for IOMMU Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 13/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add SMMUv3 driver Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 14/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add KVM mode in the driver Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-12 13:52 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-16 14:30 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 15/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Load the driver later in KVM mode Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-12 13:54 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-23 14:35 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-23 17:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-29 11:10 ` Mostafa Saleh [this message]
2025-10-02 15:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-05 16:40 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-11-05 17:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-06 11:06 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-11-06 13:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-06 16:54 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-11-06 17:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 16/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Create array for hyp SMMUv3 Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-09 18:30 ` Daniel Mentz
2025-09-16 14:35 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 17/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Take over SMMUs Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 18/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Probe SMMU HW Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 19/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add MMIO emulation Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 20/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow the command queue Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 21/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add CMDQ functions Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 22/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Emulate CMDQ for host Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-12 14:18 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-15 16:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-16 15:19 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-17 12:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-17 15:01 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-17 15:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-17 15:25 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-17 15:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-18 10:26 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-18 14:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-16 14:50 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 23/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow stream table Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 24/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow STEs Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 25/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Emulate GBPA Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 26/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Support io-pgtable Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 27/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow the CPU stage-2 page table Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 28/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Enable nesting Mostafa Saleh
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