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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Shivank Garg <shivankg@amd.com>
Cc: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	 Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	 linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	 kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
	Ashish Kalra <ashish.kalra@amd.com>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 05/12] KVM: guest_memfd: Enforce NUMA mempolicy using shared policy
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 13:33:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aOltikRvKzCy1DXN@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e9bd02ba-ff0e-47a3-a12e-9a53717dde9b@amd.com>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, Shivank Garg wrote:
> >> @@ -112,6 +114,19 @@ static int kvm_gmem_prepare_folio(struct kvm *kvm, struct kvm_memory_slot *slot,
> >>  	return r;
> >>  }
> >>  
> >> +static struct mempolicy *kvm_gmem_get_folio_policy(struct gmem_inode *gi,
> >> +						   pgoff_t index)
> > 
> > How about kvm_gmem_get_index_policy() instead, since the policy is keyed
> > by index?

But isn't the policy tied to the folio?  I assume/hope that something will split
folios if they have different policies for their indices when a folio contains
more than one page.  In other words, how will this work when hugepage support
comes along?

So yeah, I agree that the lookup is keyed on the index, but conceptually aren't
we getting the policy for the folio?  The index is a means to an end.

> >> +{
> >> +#ifdef CONFIG_NUMA
> >> +	struct mempolicy *mpol;
> >> +
> >> +	mpol = mpol_shared_policy_lookup(&gi->policy, index);
> >> +	return mpol ? mpol : get_task_policy(current);
> > 
> > Should we be returning NULL if no shared policy was defined?
> > 
> > By returning NULL, __filemap_get_folio_mpol() can handle the case where
> > cpuset_do_page_mem_spread().
> > 
> > If we always return current's task policy, what if the user wants to use
> > cpuset_do_page_mem_spread()?
> > 
> 
> I initially followed shmem's approach here.
> I agree that returning NULL maintains consistency with the current default
> behavior of cpuset_do_page_mem_spread(), regardless of CONFIG_NUMA.
> 
> I'm curious what could be the practical implications of cpuset_do_page_mem_spread()
> v/s get_task_policy() as the fallback?

Userspace could enable page spreading on the task that triggers guest_memfd
allocation.  I can't conjure up a reason to do that, but I've been surprised
more than once by KVM setups.

> Which is more appropriate for guest_memfd when no policy is explicitly set
> via mbind()?

I don't think we need to answer that question?  Userspace _has_ set a policy,
just through cpuset, not via mbind().  So while I can't imagine there's a sane
use case for cpuset_do_page_mem_spread() with guest_memfd, I also don't see a
reason why KVM should effectively disallow it.

And unless I'm missing something, allocation will eventually fallback to
get_task_policy() (in alloc_frozen_pages_noprof()), so by explicitly getting the
task policy in guest_memfd, KVM is doing _more_ work than necessary _and_ is
unnecessarily restricting usersepace.

Add in that returning NULL would align this code with the ->get_policy hook (and
could be shared again, I assume), and my vote is definitely to return NULL and
not get in the way.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-10 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-07 22:14 [PATCH v12 00/12] KVM: guest_memfd: Add NUMA mempolicy support Sean Christopherson
2025-10-07 22:14 ` [PATCH v12 01/12] KVM: guest_memfd: Rename "struct kvm_gmem" to "struct gmem_file" Sean Christopherson
2025-10-08  5:25   ` Garg, Shivank
2025-10-09 21:08     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-10 15:07     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-07 22:14 ` [PATCH v12 02/12] KVM: guest_memfd: Add macro to iterate over gmem_files for a mapping/inode Sean Christopherson
2025-10-08  5:30   ` Garg, Shivank
2025-10-09 21:27   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-07 22:14 ` [PATCH v12 03/12] KVM: guest_memfd: Use guest mem inodes instead of anonymous inodes Sean Christopherson
2025-10-07 22:14 ` [PATCH v12 04/12] KVM: guest_memfd: Add slab-allocated inode cache Sean Christopherson
2025-10-09 21:39   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-09 22:16   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-07 22:14 ` [PATCH v12 05/12] KVM: guest_memfd: Enforce NUMA mempolicy using shared policy Sean Christopherson
2025-10-09 22:15   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-10  7:57     ` Garg, Shivank
2025-10-10 20:33       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-10-10 21:57         ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-12 20:00           ` Garg, Shivank
2025-10-15 16:56           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-07 22:14 ` [PATCH v12 06/12] KVM: selftests: Define wrappers for common syscalls to assert success Sean Christopherson
2025-10-09 21:44   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-07 22:14 ` [PATCH v12 07/12] KVM: selftests: Report stacktraces SIGBUS, SIGSEGV, SIGILL, and SIGFPE by default Sean Christopherson
2025-10-09 22:31   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-07 22:14 ` [PATCH v12 08/12] KVM: selftests: Add additional equivalents to libnuma APIs in KVM's numaif.h Sean Christopherson
2025-10-09 22:34   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-07 22:14 ` [PATCH v12 09/12] KVM: selftests: Use proper uAPI headers to pick up mempolicy.h definitions Sean Christopherson
2025-10-10 17:59   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-07 22:14 ` [PATCH v12 10/12] KVM: selftests: Add helpers to probe for NUMA support, and multi-node systems Sean Christopherson
2025-10-07 22:14 ` [PATCH v12 11/12] KVM: selftests: Add guest_memfd tests for mmap and NUMA policy support Sean Christopherson
2025-10-09 23:08   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-07 22:14 ` [PATCH v12 12/12] KVM: guest_memfd: Add gmem_inode.flags field instead of using i_private Sean Christopherson
2025-10-09 20:58 ` [PATCH v12 00/12] KVM: guest_memfd: Add NUMA mempolicy support Ackerley Tng
2025-10-10  4:59   ` Garg, Shivank
2025-10-10 17:56     ` Ackerley Tng

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