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From: Beata Michalska <beata.michalska@arm.com>
To: Jie Zhan <zhanjie9@hisilicon.com>
Cc: viresh.kumar@linaro.org, rafael@kernel.org,
	ionela.voinescu@arm.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linuxarm@huawei.com, zhenglifeng1@huawei.com,
	prime.zeng@hisilicon.com, jonathan.cameron@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] cpufreq: CPPC: Update FIE arch_freq_scale in ticks for non-PCC regs
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2025 09:04:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRWRGvQg1u9bPg5V@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e439d370-48a3-40c3-ae54-67d2f844bae5@hisilicon.com>

On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 07:30:09PM +0800, Jie Zhan wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/11/2025 12:49 AM, Beata Michalska wrote:
> > Hi Jie,
> > On Tue, Nov 04, 2025 at 02:50:39PM +0800, Jie Zhan wrote:
> >> Currently, the CPPC Frequency Invariance Engine (FIE) is invoked from the
> >> scheduler tick but defers the update of arch_freq_scale to a separate
> >> thread because cppc_get_perf_ctrs() would sleep if the CPC regs are in PCC.
> >>
> >> However, this deferred update mechanism is unnecessary and introduces extra
> >> overhead for non-PCC register spaces (e.g. System Memory or FFH), where
> >> accessing the regs won't sleep and can be safely performed from the tick
> >> context.
> >>
> >> Furthermore, with the CPPC FIE registered, it throws repeated warnings of
> >> "cppc_scale_freq_workfn: failed to read perf counters" on our platform with
> >> the CPC regs in System Memory and a power-down idle state enabled.  That's
> >> because the remote CPU can be in a power-down idle state, and reading its
> >> perf counters returns 0.  Moving the FIE handling back to the scheduler
> >> tick process makes the CPU handle its own perf counters, so it won't be
> >> idle and the issue would be inherently solved.
> >>
> >> To address the above issues, update arch_freq_scale directly in ticks for
> >> non-PCC regs and keep the deferred update mechanism for PCC regs.
> > Something about it just didn’t sit right with me, and apparently, it needed some
> > time to settle down - thus the delay.
> > 
> > It all looks sensible though it might be worth to considered applying
> > the change on a per-CPU basis, as, in theory at least, different address
> > spaces are allowed for different registers (at least according to the ACPI
> > spec, if I read it right).
> > So I was thinking about smth along the lines of:
> Beata,
> 
> Right, I see what you want to do.
> Some comments inline.
> 
> Would you like to make it a full patch so I can include it in the next
> version? or some other way?
What I have shared was just to ilustrate the idea, so if that's ok with you,
you might carry on with that as well ?

---
BR
Beata
> 
> Jie
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/acpi/cppc_acpi.c b/drivers/acpi/cppc_acpi.c
> > index 6c684e54fe01..07f4e59f2f0a 100644
> > --- a/drivers/acpi/cppc_acpi.c
> > +++ b/drivers/acpi/cppc_acpi.c
> > @@ -1431,38 +1431,47 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(cppc_get_perf_caps);
> >   *
> >   * Return: true if any of the counters are in PCC regions, false otherwise
> >   */
> > -bool cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc(void)
> > +bool cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc(unsigned int cpu)
> >  {
> > -	int cpu;
> > +	struct cpc_register_resource *ref_perf_reg;
> > +	struct cpc_desc *cpc_desc;
> >  
> > -	for_each_present_cpu(cpu) {
> > -		struct cpc_register_resource *ref_perf_reg;
> > -		struct cpc_desc *cpc_desc;
> > +	cpc_desc = per_cpu(cpc_desc_ptr, cpu);
> >  
> > -		cpc_desc = per_cpu(cpc_desc_ptr, cpu);
> > +	if (CPC_IN_PCC(&cpc_desc->cpc_regs[DELIVERED_CTR]) ||
> > +	    CPC_IN_PCC(&cpc_desc->cpc_regs[REFERENCE_CTR]) ||
> > +	    CPC_IN_PCC(&cpc_desc->cpc_regs[CTR_WRAP_TIME]))
> > +		return true;
> >  
> > -		if (CPC_IN_PCC(&cpc_desc->cpc_regs[DELIVERED_CTR]) ||
> > -		    CPC_IN_PCC(&cpc_desc->cpc_regs[REFERENCE_CTR]) ||
> > -		    CPC_IN_PCC(&cpc_desc->cpc_regs[CTR_WRAP_TIME]))
> > -			return true;
> >  
> > +	ref_perf_reg = &cpc_desc->cpc_regs[REFERENCE_PERF];
> >  
> > -		ref_perf_reg = &cpc_desc->cpc_regs[REFERENCE_PERF];
> > +	/*
> > +	 * If reference perf register is not supported then we should
> > +	 * use the nominal perf value
> > +	 */
> > +	if (!CPC_SUPPORTED(ref_perf_reg))
> > +		ref_perf_reg = &cpc_desc->cpc_regs[NOMINAL_PERF];
> Though not related to this issue, I'm confused that this sort of workaround
> appears here - it should be in some init function.
> >  
> > -		/*
> > -		 * If reference perf register is not supported then we should
> > -		 * use the nominal perf value
> > -		 */
> > -		if (!CPC_SUPPORTED(ref_perf_reg))
> > -			ref_perf_reg = &cpc_desc->cpc_regs[NOMINAL_PERF];
> > +	if (CPC_IN_PCC(ref_perf_reg))
> > +		return true;
> > +
> > +	return false;
> > +}
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc);
> >  
> > -		if (CPC_IN_PCC(ref_perf_reg))
> > +bool cppc_any_perf_ctrs_in_pcc(void)
> > +{
> > +	int cpu;
> > +
> > +	for_each_present_cpu(cpu) {
> > +		if (cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc(cpu))
> >  			return true;
> >  	}
> >  
> >  	return false;
> >  }
> > -EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc);
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(cppc_any_perf_ctrs_in_pcc);
> >  
> >  /**
> >   * cppc_get_perf_ctrs - Read a CPU's performance feedback counters.
> > diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/cppc_cpufreq.c b/drivers/cpufreq/cppc_cpufreq.c
> > index 4fcaec7e2034..fdf5a49c04ed 100644
> > --- a/drivers/cpufreq/cppc_cpufreq.c
> > +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/cppc_cpufreq.c
> > @@ -48,7 +48,6 @@ struct cppc_freq_invariance {
> >  };
> >  
> >  static DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct cppc_freq_invariance, cppc_freq_inv);
> > -static bool perf_ctrs_in_pcc;
> >  static struct kthread_worker *kworker_fie;
> >  
> >  static int cppc_perf_from_fbctrs(struct cppc_perf_fb_ctrs *fb_ctrs_t0,
> > @@ -132,7 +131,12 @@ static void cppc_scale_freq_tick_pcc(void)
> >  
> >  static void cppc_scale_freq_tick(void)
> >  {
> > -	__cppc_scale_freq_tick(&per_cpu(cppc_freq_inv, smp_processor_id()));
> > +	unsigned int cpu = smp_processor_id();
> > +
> > +	cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc(cpu) ? cppc_scale_freq_tick_pcc()
> Calling cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc() could be expensive here.
> I'd prefer something like a static branch or a determined callback for each
> cpu.
> > +				   : __cppc_scale_freq_tick(
> > +				   			&per_cpu(cppc_freq_inv,
> > +				   				 cpu));
> >  }
> >  
> >  static struct scale_freq_data cppc_sftd = {
> > @@ -152,7 +156,7 @@ static void cppc_cpufreq_cpu_fie_init(struct cpufreq_policy *policy)
> >  		cppc_fi = &per_cpu(cppc_freq_inv, cpu);
> >  		cppc_fi->cpu = cpu;
> >  		cppc_fi->cpu_data = policy->driver_data;
> > -		if (perf_ctrs_in_pcc) {
> > +		if (cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc(cpu)) {
> >  			kthread_init_work(&cppc_fi->work, cppc_scale_freq_workfn);
> >  			init_irq_work(&cppc_fi->irq_work, cppc_irq_work);
> >  		}
> > @@ -193,10 +197,9 @@ static void cppc_cpufreq_cpu_fie_exit(struct cpufreq_policy *policy)
> >  	/* policy->cpus will be empty here, use related_cpus instead */
> >  	topology_clear_scale_freq_source(SCALE_FREQ_SOURCE_CPPC, policy->related_cpus);
> >  
> > -	if (!perf_ctrs_in_pcc)
> > -		return;
> > -
> >  	for_each_cpu(cpu, policy->related_cpus) {
> > +		if (!cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc(cpu))
> > +			continue;
> >  		cppc_fi = &per_cpu(cppc_freq_inv, cpu);
> >  		irq_work_sync(&cppc_fi->irq_work);
> >  		kthread_cancel_work_sync(&cppc_fi->work);
> > @@ -218,14 +221,11 @@ static void __init cppc_freq_invariance_init(void)
> >  		.sched_deadline = 10 * NSEC_PER_MSEC,
> >  		.sched_period	= 10 * NSEC_PER_MSEC,
> >  	};
> > +	bool perf_ctrs_in_pcc = cppc_any_perf_ctrs_in_pcc();
> >  	int ret;
> >  
> > -	perf_ctrs_in_pcc = cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc();
> > -
> >  	if (fie_disabled != FIE_ENABLED && fie_disabled != FIE_DISABLED) {
> > -		if (!perf_ctrs_in_pcc) {
> > -			fie_disabled = FIE_ENABLED;
> > -		} else {
> > +		if (perf_ctrs_in_pcc) {
> >  			pr_info("FIE not enabled on systems with registers in PCC\n");
> >  			fie_disabled = FIE_DISABLED;
> >  		}
> > @@ -234,12 +234,12 @@ static void __init cppc_freq_invariance_init(void)
> >  	if (fie_disabled || !perf_ctrs_in_pcc)
> >  		return;
> >  
> > -	cppc_sftd.set_freq_scale = cppc_scale_freq_tick_pcc;
> >  
> >  	kworker_fie = kthread_run_worker(0, "cppc_fie");
> >  	if (IS_ERR(kworker_fie)) {
> >  		pr_warn("%s: failed to create kworker_fie: %ld\n", __func__,
> >  			PTR_ERR(kworker_fie));
> > +		kworker_fie = NULL;
> >  		fie_disabled = FIE_DISABLED;
> >  		return;
> >  	}
> > @@ -255,10 +255,8 @@ static void __init cppc_freq_invariance_init(void)
> >  
> >  static void cppc_freq_invariance_exit(void)
> >  {
> > -	if (fie_disabled || !perf_ctrs_in_pcc)
> > -		return;
> > -
> > -	kthread_destroy_worker(kworker_fie);
> > +	if (kworker_fie)
> > +		kthread_destroy_worker(kworker_fie);
> >  }
> >  
> >  #else
> > diff --git a/include/acpi/cppc_acpi.h b/include/acpi/cppc_acpi.h
> > index 13fa81504844..3af503b12f60 100644
> > --- a/include/acpi/cppc_acpi.h
> > +++ b/include/acpi/cppc_acpi.h
> > @@ -154,7 +154,8 @@ extern int cppc_get_perf_ctrs(int cpu, struct cppc_perf_fb_ctrs *perf_fb_ctrs);
> >  extern int cppc_set_perf(int cpu, struct cppc_perf_ctrls *perf_ctrls);
> >  extern int cppc_set_enable(int cpu, bool enable);
> >  extern int cppc_get_perf_caps(int cpu, struct cppc_perf_caps *caps);
> > -extern bool cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc(void);
> > +extern bool cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc(unsigned int cpu);
> > +extern bool cppc_any_perf_ctrs_in_pcc(void);
> would be slightly better to keep cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc(void) and add a new
> function, e.g. cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc_cpu(unsigned int cpu), such that the
> old ABI is unchanged.
> >  extern unsigned int cppc_perf_to_khz(struct cppc_perf_caps *caps, unsigned int perf);
> >  extern unsigned int cppc_khz_to_perf(struct cppc_perf_caps *caps, unsigned int freq);
> >  extern bool acpi_cpc_valid(void);
> > @@ -204,7 +205,11 @@ static inline int cppc_get_perf_caps(int cpu, struct cppc_perf_caps *caps)
> >  {
> >  	return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> >  }
> > -static inline bool cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc(void)
> > +static inline bool cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc(unsigned int cpu)
> > +{
> > +	return false;
> > +}
> > +static inline bool cppc_any_perf_ctrs_in_pcc(void)
> >  {
> >  	return false;
> >  }
> > 
> > 
> > Additionally, it might be worth to get rid of (at least) some messages printed
> > on the path of reading the counters in case it is being done in tick context.
> Cool, will have a look.
> > 
> > Also , I do not have access to any machine using PCC, and it would be good to
> > double check that as well.
> > 
> > ---
> > BR
> > Beata
> 
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Jie Zhan <zhanjie9@hisilicon.com>
> >> ---
> >> We have tested this on Kunpeng SoCs with the CPC regs both in System Memory
> >> and FFH.  More tests on other platforms are welcome.
> >>
> >> Changelog:
> >>
> >> v3:
> >> - Stash the state of 'cppc_perf_ctrs_in_pcc' so it won't have to check the CPC
> >>   regs of all CPUs everywhere (Thanks to the suggestion from Beata Michalska).
> >> - Update the commit log, explaining more on the warning issue caused by
> >>   accessing perf counters on remote CPUs.
> >> - Drop Patch 1 that has been accepted, and rebase Patch 2 on that.
> >>
> >> v2:
> >> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/20250828110212.2108653-1-zhanjie9@hisilicon.com/
> >> - Update the cover letter and the commit log based on v1 discussion
> >> - Update FIE arch_freq_scale in ticks for non-PCC regs
> >>
> >> v1:
> >> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/20250730032312.167062-1-yubowen8@huawei.com/
> >> ---
> >>  drivers/cpufreq/cppc_cpufreq.c | 60 ++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
> >>  1 file changed, 42 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
> ...


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-13  8:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-04  6:50 [PATCH v3] cpufreq: CPPC: Update FIE arch_freq_scale in ticks for non-PCC regs Jie Zhan
2025-11-10 16:49 ` Beata Michalska
2025-11-11 11:30   ` Jie Zhan
2025-11-13  8:04     ` Beata Michalska [this message]
2025-11-13  8:18       ` Jie Zhan

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