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From: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, will@kernel.org, joro@8bytes.org,
	Tomasz Nowicki <tnowicki@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Add misisng concatenated PGD cases
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2025 15:41:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aThDEnbbop8ZYAuG@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <498bbad4-ea64-4a24-a63f-e131d271990a@arm.com>

On Tue, Dec 09, 2025 at 01:33:36PM +0000, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 2025-12-09 12:37 pm, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 09, 2025 at 11:34:34AM +0000, Robin Murphy wrote:
> > > On 2025-11-30 7:45 pm, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> > > > arm_lpae_concat_mandatory() assumes that OAS >= IAS which is not
> > > > correct for SMMUs supporting AArch32, and have OAS = 32/36 bits,
> > > > as IAS would be 40 bits.
> > > 
> > > But that is only when *using* AArch32 format. The bit in chapter 3.4 of the
> > > SMMU architecture is talking about the maximum IAS that an SMMU
> > > implementation needs to be able to accommodate based on its configuration,
> > > but it does then attempt to clarify that the actual IPA size in use by any
> > > given context should depend on the VMSA format in use:
> > > 
> > > "VMSAv8-32 LPAE always supports an IPA size of 40 bits, whereas VMSAv8-64
> > > and VMSAv9-128 limits the maximum IPA size to the maximum PA size."
> > > 
> > > Rule R_SRKBC in the Arm ARM lays out the exact T0SZ constraints with this
> > > AArch32/AArch64 detail.
> > 
> > I see, thanks a lot for the explanation, I got confused by the this
> > statement:
> > Note: If AArch32 is implemented, IAS == MAX(40, OAS), otherwise IAS == OAS.
> 
> Indeed, that appears confusingly contradictory; I've filed a bug.
> 
> > However, I think this is still a bug but somewere else, as at the moment
> > the SMMUv3 dirver will use the SMMU IAS (40-bits) as input for AArch64
> > stage-2 page tables, so we need either to limit the IAS as:
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/iommu/arm/arm-smmu-v3/arm-smmu-v3.c b/drivers/iommu/arm/arm-smmu-v3/arm-smmu-v3.c
> > index d16d35c78c06..d21153156daa 100644
> > --- a/drivers/iommu/arm/arm-smmu-v3/arm-smmu-v3.c
> > +++ b/drivers/iommu/arm/arm-smmu-v3/arm-smmu-v3.c
> > @@ -2561,7 +2561,7 @@ static int arm_smmu_domain_finalise(struct arm_smmu_domain *smmu_domain,
> >          case ARM_SMMU_DOMAIN_S2:
> >                  if (enable_dirty)
> >                          return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> > -               pgtbl_cfg.ias = smmu->ias;
> > +               pgtbl_cfg.ias = min(smmu->ias, smmu->oas);
> >                  pgtbl_cfg.oas = smmu->oas;
> >                  fmt = ARM_64_LPAE_S2;
> >                  finalise_stage_fn = arm_smmu_domain_finalise_s2;
> > 
> > Or, don't populate IAS depending on AArch32 support as the driver
> > doesn't support it, effectively reverting:
> > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=f0c453dbcce7767cd868deb809ba68083c93954e
> 
> It does appear we've missed the detail here. TBH I'm not really sure why
> we're bothering to consider the theoretical maximum IAS at all when it only
> makes any difference to a format we've never cared about supporting anyway.
> Frankly I'd be inclined to just remove smmu->ias altogether - even if we did
> ever want to support LPAE format, it would be just as trivial for that to
> hard-code pgtbl_cfg.ias = 40 based on the architecture rules.
> 

Makes sense, I will prepare a patch.

Thanks,
Mostafa

> Thanks,
> Robin.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-09 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-30 19:45 [PATCH] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Add misisng concatenated PGD cases Mostafa Saleh
2025-12-09 11:34 ` Robin Murphy
2025-12-09 12:37   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-12-09 13:33     ` Robin Murphy
2025-12-09 15:41       ` Mostafa Saleh [this message]
2025-12-10  0:42       ` Will Deacon
2025-12-10 12:06         ` Robin Murphy
2025-12-11  2:09           ` Will Deacon
2025-12-11 11:04             ` Robin Murphy

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