Re: [PATCH v11 RESEND 9/9] arm64: armv8_deprecated: apply FEAT_LSUI for swpX emulation.

[Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>]

Hi Mark,

> On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 10:32:11PM +0000, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2025 at 09:56:04AM +0000, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 14 Dec 2025 11:22:48 +0000,
> > > > > Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Apply the FEAT_LSUI instruction to emulate the deprecated swpX
> > > > > > instruction, so that toggling of the PSTATE.PAN bit can be removed when
> > > > > > LSUI-related instructions are used.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > It really begs the question: what are the odds of ever seeing a CPU
> > > > > that implements both LSUI and AArch32?
> > > > >
> > > > > This seems extremely unlikely to me.
> > > >
> > > > Well, I'm not sure how many CPU will have
> > > > both ID_AA64PFR0_EL1.EL0 bit as 0b0010 and FEAT_LSUI
> > > > (except FVP currently) -- at least the CPU what I saw,
> > > > most of them set ID_AA64PFR0_EL1.EL0 as 0b0010.
> > >
> > > Just to make sure I understand you, you're saying that you have seen
> > > a real CPU that implements both 32-bit EL0 *and* FEAT_LSUI?
> > >
> > > > If you this seems useless, I don't have any strong comments
> > > > whether drop patches related to deprecated swp instruction parts
> > > > (patch 8-9 only) or not.
> > > > (But, I hope to pass this decision to maintaining perspective...)
> > >
> > > I think it depends on whether or not the hardware exists. Marc thinks
> > > that it's extremely unlikely whereas you appear to have seen some (but
> > > please confirm).
> >
> > What I meant was not a 32-bit CPU with LSUI, but a CPU that supports
> > 32-bit EL0 compatibility (i.e. ID_AA64PFR0_EL1.EL0 = 0b0010).
> > My point was that if CPUs implementing LSUI do appear, most of them will likely
> > continue to support the existing 32-bit EL0 compatibility that
> > the majority of current CPUs already have.
>
> That doesn't really answer Will's question. Will asked:
>
>   Just to make sure I understand you, you're saying that you have seen a
>   real CPU that implements both 32-bit EL0 *and* FEAT_LSUI?
>
> IIUC you have NOT seen any specific real CPU that supports this, and you
> have been testing on an FVP AEM model (which can be configured to
> support this combination of features). Can you please confirm?
>
> I don't beleive it's likely that we'll see hardware that supports
> both FEAT_LSUI and AArch32 (at EL0).

Yes. I've tested in FVP model. and the latest of my reply said
I confirmed that Marc's and your view was right.

Thanks.

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Sincerely,
Yeoreum Yun