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From: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
To: James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org>
Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com, maz@kernel.org,
	oliver.upton@linux.dev, joey.gouly@arm.com,
	suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com, will@kernel.org,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v6 19/35] KVM: arm64: Trap PMBIDR_EL1 and PMSIDR_EL1
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2026 12:48:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aWY_GGzNW85ZR7dP@raptor> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adacaff6-c6c7-47a5-993a-29f006fe1b86@linaro.org>

Hi James,

On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 11:54:05AM +0000, James Clark wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/01/2026 11:28 am, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> > Hi James,
> > 
> > On Fri, Jan 09, 2026 at 04:29:37PM +0000, James Clark wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 14/11/2025 4:07 pm, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> > > > PMBIDR_EL1 and PMSIDR_EL1 are read-only registers that describe the SPE
> > > > implementation. Trap reads to allow KVM to control how SPE is described to
> > > > a virtual machine. In particular, this is needed to:
> > > > 
> > > > - Advertise the maximum buffer size set by userspace in
> > > >     PMBIDR_EL1.MaxBuffSize.
> > > > - Hide in PMSIDR_EL1, if necessary, the presence of FEAT_SPE_FDS and
> > > >     FEAT_SPE_FnE, both of which add new registers which are already
> > > >     trapped via the FGU mechanism.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >    arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_spe.h |  4 +-
> > > >    arch/arm64/kvm/config.c          | 13 ++++-
> > > >    arch/arm64/kvm/spe.c             | 82 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > > >    arch/arm64/kvm/sys_regs.c        | 13 +++--
> > > >    4 files changed, 103 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_spe.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_spe.h
> > > > index 3506d8c4c661..47b94794cc5f 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_spe.h
> > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_spe.h
> > > > @@ -40,7 +40,7 @@ int kvm_spe_get_attr(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, struct kvm_device_attr *attr);
> > > >    int kvm_spe_has_attr(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, struct kvm_device_attr *attr);
> > > >    bool kvm_spe_write_sysreg(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, int reg, u64 val);
> > > > -u64 kvm_spe_read_sysreg(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, int reg);
> > > > +u64 kvm_spe_read_sysreg(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, int reg, u32 encoding);
> > > >    #else
> > > >    struct kvm_spe {
> > > >    };
> > > > @@ -78,7 +78,7 @@ static inline bool kvm_spe_write_sysreg(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, int reg, u64 val)
> > > >    {
> > > >    	return true;
> > > >    }
> > > > -static inline u64 kvm_spe_read_sysreg(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, int reg)
> > > > +static inline u64 kvm_spe_read_sysreg(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, int reg, u32 encoding)
> > > >    {
> > > >    	return 0;
> > > >    }
> > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/config.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/config.c
> > > > index 24bb3f36e9d5..ed6b167b7aa8 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/config.c
> > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/config.c
> > > > @@ -6,6 +6,7 @@
> > > >    #include <linux/kvm_host.h>
> > > >    #include <asm/kvm_emulate.h>
> > > > +#include <asm/kvm_spe.h>
> > > >    #include <asm/kvm_nested.h>
> > > >    #include <asm/sysreg.h>
> > > > @@ -1489,6 +1490,16 @@ static void __compute_hfgwtr(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > > >    		*vcpu_fgt(vcpu, HFGWTR_EL2) |= HFGWTR_EL2_TCR_EL1;
> > > >    }
> > > > +static void __compute_hdfgrtr(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	__compute_fgt(vcpu, HDFGRTR_EL2);
> > > > +
> > > > +	if (vcpu_has_spe(vcpu)) {
> > > > +		*vcpu_fgt(vcpu, HDFGRTR_EL2) |= HDFGRTR_EL2_PMBIDR_EL1;
> > > > +		*vcpu_fgt(vcpu, HDFGRTR_EL2) |= HDFGRTR_EL2_PMSIDR_EL1;
> > > > +	}
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > >    static void __compute_hdfgwtr(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > > >    {
> > > >    	__compute_fgt(vcpu, HDFGWTR_EL2);
> > > > @@ -1505,7 +1516,7 @@ void kvm_vcpu_load_fgt(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > > >    	__compute_fgt(vcpu, HFGRTR_EL2);
> > > >    	__compute_hfgwtr(vcpu);
> > > >    	__compute_fgt(vcpu, HFGITR_EL2);
> > > > -	__compute_fgt(vcpu, HDFGRTR_EL2);
> > > > +	__compute_hdfgrtr(vcpu);
> > > >    	__compute_hdfgwtr(vcpu);
> > > >    	__compute_fgt(vcpu, HAFGRTR_EL2);
> > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/spe.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/spe.c
> > > > index 5b3dc622cf82..92eb46276c71 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/spe.c
> > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/spe.c
> > > > @@ -22,10 +22,16 @@ struct arm_spu_entry {
> > > >    	struct arm_spe_pmu *arm_spu;
> > > >    };
> > > > +static u64 max_buffer_size_to_pmbidr_el1(u64 size);
> > > > +
> > > >    void kvm_host_spe_init(struct arm_spe_pmu *arm_spu)
> > > >    {
> > > >    	struct arm_spu_entry *entry;
> > > > +	/* PMBIDR_EL1 cannot be trapped without FEAT_FGT. */
> > > > +	if (!cpus_have_final_cap(ARM64_HAS_FGT))
> > > > +		return;
> > > > +
> > > 
> > > Isn't this only required if you want to report a different PMBIDR value? If
> > > the value in hardware is already what you want to give to guests then it's
> > > not strictly required. Maybe it's something we can do as an addition later
> > > to make it usable in more places.
> > 
> > The maximum buffer size is advertised in PMBIDR_EL1.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Alex
> > 
> 
> I know, but 0 "unlimited" is a valid value, and that's what's already in
> PMBIDR. You only need to trap if the value doesn't match what's already
> there.
> 
> You can also "probe" the maximum buffer size without this by attempting to
> set the limit pointer and looking at the buffer management error code.
> 
> The first thing I did when I went to use this was comment this out because
> my hardware doesn't support FGT. But the rest of it works fine without,
> maybe other people could benefit in the future too.

I could add a new capability for setting the maximum buffer size (or to set a
buffer size different than what the hardware advertises), enabled when FEAT_FGT
is implement by the hardware. But that means not allowing KVM SPE on Neoverse
because of erratum 3023823 [1]. So I don't think you would be able to use KVM
SPE out of the box on your hardware anyway (if I understood correctly that
you've been using a Neoverse CPU to test the series).

[1] https://developer.arm.com/documentation/SDEN-885747/34-0

Thanks,
Alex


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-13 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-14 16:06 [RFC PATCH v6 00/35] KVM: arm64: Add Statistical Profiling Extension (SPE) support Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 01/35] arm64/sysreg: Add new SPE fields Alexandru Elisei
2025-12-10 18:38   ` Leo Yan
2025-12-12  9:39     ` Alexandru Elisei
2025-12-15 21:42   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 02/35] arm64/sysreg: Define MDCR_EL2.E2PB values Alexandru Elisei
2025-12-15 21:33   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 03/35] KVM: arm64: Add CONFIG_KVM_ARM_SPE Kconfig option Alexandru Elisei
2026-01-09 16:29   ` James Clark
2026-01-12 11:26     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-01-12 12:09       ` James Clark
2026-01-12 12:14         ` James Clark
2026-01-12 15:18         ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-01-13 10:25           ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-01-13 15:00             ` James Clark
2026-01-13 17:03               ` Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 04/35] perf: arm_spe_pmu: Move struct arm_spe_pmu to a separate header file Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 05/35] KVM: arm64: Add KVM_CAP_ARM_SPE capability Alexandru Elisei
2025-12-14 12:18   ` Leo Yan
2025-12-15 11:46     ` Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 06/35] KVM: arm64: Add KVM_ARM_VCPU_SPE VCPU feature Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 07/35] HACK! KVM: arm64: Disable SPE virtualization if protected KVM is enabled Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 08/35] HACK! KVM: arm64: Enable SPE virtualization only in VHE mode Alexandru Elisei
2025-12-15 17:49   ` Leo Yan
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 09/35] HACK! KVM: arm64: Disable SPE virtualization if nested virt is enabled Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 10/35] KVM: arm64: Add a new VCPU device control group for SPE Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 11/35] KVM: arm64: Add SPE VCPU device attribute to set the interrupt number Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 12/35] KVM: arm64: Add SPE VCPU device attribute to set the SPU device Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 13/35] perf: arm_spe_pmu: Add PMBIDR_EL1 to struct arm_spe_pmu Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 14/35] KVM: arm64: Add SPE VCPU device attribute to set the max buffer size Alexandru Elisei
2026-01-09 16:29   ` James Clark
2026-01-12 11:28     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-01-12 11:50       ` James Clark
2026-01-12 14:03         ` Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 15/35] KVM: arm64: Add SPE VCPU device attribute to initialize SPE Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 16/35] KVM: arm64: Advertise SPE version in ID_AA64DFR0_EL1.PMSver Alexandru Elisei
2025-12-16 11:40   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-01-05 16:42     ` Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 17/35] KVM: arm64: Add writable SPE system registers to VCPU context Alexandru Elisei
2025-12-16 11:54   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-01-05 16:42     ` Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v6 18/35] perf: arm_spe_pmu: Add PMSIDR_EL1 to struct arm_spe_pmu Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 19/35] KVM: arm64: Trap PMBIDR_EL1 and PMSIDR_EL1 Alexandru Elisei
2026-01-09 16:29   ` James Clark
2026-01-12 11:28     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-01-12 11:54       ` James Clark
2026-01-13 12:48         ` Alexandru Elisei [this message]
2026-01-13 14:22           ` James Clark
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 20/35] KVM: arm64: config: Use functions from spe.c to test FEAT_SPE_{FnE,FDS} Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 21/35] KVM: arm64: Check for unsupported CPU early in kvm_arch_vcpu_load() Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 22/35] KVM: arm64: VHE: Context switch SPE state Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 23/35] KVM: arm64: Allow guest SPE physical timestamps only if perfmon_capable() Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 24/35] KVM: arm64: Handle SPE hardware maintenance interrupts Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 25/35] KVM: arm64: Add basic handling of SPE buffer control registers writes Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 26/35] KVM: arm64: Add comment to explain how trapped SPE registers are handled Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 27/35] KVM: arm64: Make MTE functions public Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 28/35] KVM: arm64: at: Use callback for reading descriptor Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 29/35] KVM: arm64: Pin the SPE buffer in the host and map it at stage 2 Alexandru Elisei
2026-01-09 16:29   ` James Clark
2026-01-09 16:35     ` James Clark
2026-01-12 12:01     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-01-13 14:18       ` James Clark
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 30/35] KVM: Propagate MMU event to the MMU notifier handlers Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 31/35] KVM: arm64: Handle MMU notifiers for the SPE buffer Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 32/35] KVM: Add KVM_EXIT_RLIMIT exit_reason Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 33/35] KVM: arm64: Implement locked memory accounting for the SPE buffer Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 34/35] KVM: arm64: Add hugetlb support for SPE Alexandru Elisei
2025-11-14 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v6 35/35] KVM: arm64: Allow the creation of a SPE enabled VM Alexandru Elisei
2025-12-11 16:34 ` [RFC PATCH v6 00/35] KVM: arm64: Add Statistical Profiling Extension (SPE) support Leo Yan
2025-12-12 10:18   ` Alexandru Elisei
2025-12-12 11:15     ` Leo Yan
2025-12-12 11:54       ` Alexandru Elisei

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