From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
jean-philippe@linaro.org, robin.murphy@arm.com, joro@8bytes.org,
balbirs@nvidia.com, miko.lenczewski@arm.com,
peterz@infradead.org, kevin.tian@intel.com, praan@google.com,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 6/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add arm_smmu_invs based arm_smmu_domain_inv_range()
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2026 13:01:16 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXdlnLLFUBwjT0V5@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260123200327.GF1134360@nvidia.com>
On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 04:03:27PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 05:10:52PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 05:05:31PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 12:11:28PM -0800, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > > + /*
> > > > + * We are committed to updating the STE. Ensure the invalidation array
> > > > + * is visible to concurrent map/unmap threads, and acquire any racing
> > > > + * IOPTE updates.
> > > > + *
> > > > + * [CPU0] | [CPU1]
> > > > + * |
> > > > + * change IOPTEs and TLB flush: |
> > > > + * arm_smmu_domain_inv_range() { | arm_smmu_install_old_domain_invs {
> > > > + * ... | rcu_assign_pointer(new_invs);
> > > > + * smp_mb(); // ensure IOPTEs | smp_mb(); // ensure new_invs
> > > > + * ... | kfree_rcu(old_invs, rcu);
> > > > + * // load invalidation array | }
> > > > + * invs = rcu_dereference(); | arm_smmu_install_ste_for_dev {
> > > > + * | STE = TTB0 // read new IOPTEs
> > > > + */
> > > > + smp_mb();
> > >
> > > I don't think we need to duplicate this comment three times, you can just
> > > refer to the first function (e.g. "See ordering comment in
> > > arm_smmu_domain_inv_range()").
> > >
> > > However, isn't the comment above misleading for this case?
> > > arm_smmu_install_old_domain_invs() has the sequencing the other way
> > > around on CPU 1: we should update the STE first.
> >
> > I also think we probably want a dma_mb() instead of an smp_mb() for all
> > of these examples? It won't make any practical difference but I think it
> > helps readability given that one of the readers is the PTW.
>
> The only actual dma_wmb() is inside arm_smmu_install_ste_for_dev()
> after updating the STE. Adding that line explicitly would help as that
> is the only point where we must have the writes actually visible to
> the DMA HW.
>
> The ones written here as smp_mb() are not required to be DMA ones and
> could all be NOP's on UP..
Hmm, I'm not sure about that.
If we've written a new (i.e. previously invalid) valid PTE to a
page-table and then we install that page-table into an STE hitlessly
(let's say we write the S2TTB field) then isn't there a window before we
do the STE invalidation where the page-table might be accessible to the
SMMU but the new PTE is still sitting in the CPU?
i.e. we can't rely on the command insertion barrier for that.
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-26 13:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-19 20:11 [PATCH v9 0/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Introduce an RCU-protected invalidation array Nicolin Chen
2025-12-19 20:11 ` [PATCH v9 1/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Explicitly set smmu_domain->stage for SVA Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23 9:49 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-12-19 20:11 ` [PATCH v9 2/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add an inline arm_smmu_domain_free() Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23 9:50 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-12-19 20:11 ` [PATCH v9 3/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Introduce a per-domain arm_smmu_invs array Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23 9:53 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-01-23 17:03 ` Will Deacon
2026-01-23 17:35 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23 17:51 ` Will Deacon
2026-01-23 17:56 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23 19:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-23 19:18 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-26 14:54 ` Will Deacon
2026-01-26 15:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-12-19 20:11 ` [PATCH v9 4/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Pre-allocate a per-master invalidation array Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23 9:54 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-12-19 20:11 ` [PATCH v9 5/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Populate smmu_domain->invs when attaching masters Nicolin Chen
2025-12-19 20:11 ` [PATCH v9 6/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add arm_smmu_invs based arm_smmu_domain_inv_range() Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23 9:48 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-01-23 13:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-27 16:38 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-27 17:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-27 18:07 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-27 18:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-27 18:37 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-27 19:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-27 20:14 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-28 0:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-23 17:05 ` Will Deacon
2026-01-23 17:10 ` Will Deacon
2026-01-23 17:43 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23 20:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 13:01 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2026-01-26 15:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 16:02 ` Will Deacon
2026-01-26 16:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 18:56 ` Will Deacon
2026-01-27 3:14 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-26 17:50 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-12-19 20:11 ` [PATCH v9 7/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Perform per-domain invalidations using arm_smmu_invs Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23 17:07 ` Will Deacon
2026-01-23 17:47 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23 19:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-19 17:10 ` [PATCH v9 0/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Introduce an RCU-protected invalidation array Nicolin Chen
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