From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, mark.rutland@arm.com,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>,
James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org>, Leo Yan <leo.yan@arm.com>,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: arm64: Disable TRBE Trace Buffer Unit when running in guest context
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2026 17:10:12 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aZNPdDAHiLpTvGnS@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aZM9kv9X5KjeM94j@raptor>
On Mon, Feb 16, 2026 at 03:53:54PM +0000, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2026 at 02:29:31PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 13:09:59 +0000,
> > Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > The nVHE world-switch code relies on zeroing TRFCR_EL1 to disable trace
> > > generation in guest context when self-hosted TRBE is in use by the host.
> > >
> > > Per D3.2.1 ("Controls to prohibit trace at Exception levels"), clearing
> > > TRFCR_EL1 means that trace generation is prohibited at EL1 and EL0 but
> > > per R_YCHKJ the Trace Buffer Unit will still be enabled if
> > > TRBLIMITR_EL1.E is set. R_SJFRQ goes on to state that, when enabled, the
> > > Trace Buffer Unit can perform address translation for the "owning
> > > exception level" even when it is out of context.
> >
> > Great. So TRBE violates all the principles that we hold true in the
> > architecture. Does SPE suffer from the same level of brokenness?
>
> I think not currently - I_JZRDG from DDI0487M.a.a says that after a PSB + DSB
> 'no new memory accesses using the lower Exception level translation table
> entries occur'.
>
> But looks like the behaviour will be changed so that it will be similar to TRBE,
> according to the Arm known issues document [1], added in D23136:
>
> 'When the Profiling Buffer is enabled, profiling is not stopped, and Discard mode
> is not enabled, the Statistical Profiling Unit might cause speculative
> translations for the owning translation regime, including when the owning
> translation regime is out-of-context'.
I think SPE is ok, as __debug_save_spe() clears PMSCR_EL1 and (unlike
TRBE) PMSCR_EL1.ExSPE _are_ factored into whether or not profiling is
"enabled".
So there's a funny asymmetry between SPE and TRBE, which I assume is due
to the coresight much associated with the latter.
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-16 17:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-16 13:09 [PATCH] KVM: arm64: Disable TRBE Trace Buffer Unit when running in guest context Will Deacon
2026-02-16 14:29 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-02-16 15:05 ` James Clark
2026-02-16 15:51 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-02-16 16:10 ` James Clark
2026-02-16 16:49 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-02-20 11:42 ` James Clark
2026-02-24 11:19 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-02-20 15:48 ` Leo Yan
2026-02-24 11:22 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-02-16 18:14 ` Will Deacon
2026-02-17 14:19 ` Leo Yan
2026-02-17 14:52 ` Will Deacon
2026-02-17 19:01 ` Leo Yan
2026-02-19 13:54 ` Will Deacon
2026-02-19 18:58 ` Leo Yan
2026-02-19 19:06 ` Leo Yan
2026-02-25 12:09 ` Leo Yan
2026-02-27 18:07 ` Will Deacon
2026-03-03 10:36 ` Leo Yan
2026-03-03 10:47 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-02-16 15:53 ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-02-16 17:10 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2026-02-17 12:13 ` Will Deacon
2026-02-16 17:32 ` Will Deacon
2026-02-17 12:20 ` James Clark
2026-02-17 12:26 ` Will Deacon
2026-02-17 13:58 ` James Clark
2026-02-16 15:13 ` James Clark
2026-02-16 17:05 ` Will Deacon
2026-02-17 9:18 ` James Clark
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