From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>, Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>,
Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
Vincent Donnefort <vdonnefort@google.com>,
Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 25/36] KVM: arm64: Reclaim faulting page from pKVM in spurious fault handler
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2026 14:58:16 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <acFVCKZVw77OSiS0@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fr5tcyim.wl-maz@kernel.org>
On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 09:39:13AM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 16:20:59 +0000,
> Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 05 Mar 2026 14:43:38 +0000,
> > Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Host kernel accesses to pages that are inaccessible at stage-2 result in
> > > the injection of a translation fault, which is fatal unless an exception
> > > table fixup is registered for the faulting PC (e.g. for user access
> > > routines). This is undesirable, since a get_user_pages() call could be
> > > used to obtain a reference to a donated page and then a subsequent
> > > access via a kernel mapping would lead to a panic().
> > >
> > > Rework the spurious fault handler so that stage-2 faults injected back
> > > into the host result in the target page being forcefully reclaimed when
> > > no exception table fixup handler is registered.
> >
> > Is there any reason why you prefer the 'inject fault' followed by
> > 'gimme that page' dance over a more direct 'unconditionally reclaim
> > the page on the back of the fault'?
> >
> > I can't figure out what would go wrong in the latter approach, as you
> > always have an opportunity to inject a (fatal) fault if you can't
> > safely reclaim the page.
>
> To be clear, the reason I'm asking this is that with RME (whether
> that's with the dreaded CCA or something else), injecting a fault into
> the host would involve EL3, and I don't trust EL3 to do that. There is
> also the small detail that the fault syndrome is not strictly
> architectural, meaning that EL3 would have to learn a pKVM-specific
> behaviour.
>
> But EL3 should be able to report a GPC fault to RL-EL2, which then
> could act the exact same way as pKVM, unmapping, clearing and
> releasing the page.
I wonder if we should try to get this changed/extended, given that it's
all software? Perhaps RL-EL2 could populate parts of the fault syndrome
that get injected back into the host?
Ideally, we'd run something at RL-EL2 that is tightly-coupled with KVM
and so we wouldn't need to teach EL3 anything as long as it lets the
two talk to each other...
> Thoughts?
I think we need to retain the exception injection behaviour, for two
reasons:
1. The kernel can over-read strings via load_unaligned_zeropad(). If
this happens to walk into a protected page, we have to inject a fault
so that the exception handler can fix things up. Otherwise, we'd
silently poison protected pages due to software-speculative accesses.
2. If the fault comes directly from userspace (e.g. because of an
out-of-bounds access or a virtio problem), the fault handler in the
kernel will inject a signal back to userspace which can be caught and
handled synchronously. I suppose we could require the VMM to make the
guest memory PROT_NONE if it wanted to preserve this behaviour
(assuming it doesn't break GUP). Still, it feels desirable to report
the problem synchronously when we can.
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-23 14:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-05 14:43 [PATCH v3 00/36] KVM: arm64: Add support for protected guest memory with pKVM Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 01/36] KVM: arm64: Don't leak stage-2 page-table if VM fails to init under pKVM Will Deacon
2026-03-11 12:48 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 02/36] KVM: arm64: Move handle check into pkvm_pgtable_stage2_destroy_range() Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:15 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 03/36] KVM: arm64: Rename __pkvm_pgtable_stage2_unmap() Will Deacon
2026-03-11 12:49 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 04/36] KVM: arm64: Don't advertise unsupported features for protected guests Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:15 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 05/36] KVM: arm64: Expose self-hosted debug regs as RAZ/WI " Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 06/36] KVM: arm64: Remove is_protected_kvm_enabled() checks from hypercalls Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:16 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 07/36] KVM: arm64: Ignore MMU notifier callbacks for protected VMs Will Deacon
2026-03-11 12:50 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 08/36] KVM: arm64: Prevent unsupported memslot operations on " Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:16 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 09/36] KVM: arm64: Ignore -EAGAIN when mapping in pages for the pKVM host Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:10 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 10/36] KVM: arm64: Split teardown hypercall into two phases Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:22 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 11/36] KVM: arm64: Introduce __pkvm_host_donate_guest() Will Deacon
2026-03-20 12:38 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-23 14:55 ` Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 12/36] KVM: arm64: Hook up donation hypercall to pkvm_pgtable_stage2_map() Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 13/36] KVM: arm64: Handle aborts from protected VMs Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:22 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 14/36] KVM: arm64: Introduce __pkvm_reclaim_dying_guest_page() Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 15/36] KVM: arm64: Hook up reclaim hypercall to pkvm_pgtable_stage2_destroy() Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 16/36] KVM: arm64: Factor out pKVM host exception injection logic Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:12 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 17/36] KVM: arm64: Support translation faults in inject_host_exception() Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:12 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 18/36] KVM: arm64: Inject SIGSEGV on illegal accesses Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:13 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 19/36] KVM: arm64: Avoid pointless annotation when mapping host-owned pages Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 20/36] KVM: arm64: Generalise kvm_pgtable_stage2_set_owner() Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 21/36] KVM: arm64: Introduce host_stage2_set_owner_metadata_locked() Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 22/36] KVM: arm64: Change 'pkvm_handle_t' to u16 Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 23/36] KVM: arm64: Annotate guest donations with handle and gfn in host stage-2 Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 24/36] KVM: arm64: Introduce hypercall to force reclaim of a protected page Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 25/36] KVM: arm64: Reclaim faulting page from pKVM in spurious fault handler Will Deacon
2026-03-20 16:20 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-21 9:39 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-23 14:58 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 26/36] KVM: arm64: Return -EFAULT from VCPU_RUN on access to a poisoned pte Will Deacon
2026-03-20 16:35 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-23 14:58 ` Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 27/36] KVM: arm64: Add hvc handler at EL2 for hypercalls from protected VMs Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 28/36] KVM: arm64: Implement the MEM_SHARE hypercall for " Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 29/36] KVM: arm64: Implement the MEM_UNSHARE " Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 30/36] KVM: arm64: Allow userspace to create protected VMs when pKVM is enabled Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:25 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-20 13:22 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-23 15:00 ` Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 31/36] KVM: arm64: Add some initial documentation for pKVM Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:25 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 32/36] KVM: arm64: Extend pKVM page ownership selftests to cover guest donation Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 33/36] KVM: arm64: Register 'selftest_vm' in the VM table Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 34/36] KVM: arm64: Extend pKVM page ownership selftests to cover forced reclaim Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 35/36] KVM: arm64: Extend pKVM page ownership selftests to cover guest hvcs Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 36/36] KVM: arm64: Rename PKVM_PAGE_STATE_MASK Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:26 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-11 10:07 ` [PATCH v3 00/36] KVM: arm64: Add support for protected guest memory with pKVM Fuad Tabba
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