From: Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] drivers/firmware: add SDEI cross-CPU NMI service for arm64
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2026 22:29:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aiM861HRKlrDqaXl@thinkstation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=XMqFVnri1aVGbFJhN6Ts3SeJUzEZrfN0Pqp9WeOzE=OA@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Jun 05, 2026 at 01:54:00PM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2026 at 7:36 AM Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name> wrote:
> >
> > @@ -928,11 +929,19 @@ static void arm64_backtrace_ipi(cpumask_t *mask)
> > void arch_trigger_cpumask_backtrace(const cpumask_t *mask, int exclude_cpu)
> > {
> > /*
> > + * Prefer the SDEI cross-CPU NMI provider when active: firmware
> > + * dispatches the event out of EL3 and reaches CPUs that have
> > + * interrupts locally masked, without the per-IRQ-mask cost that
> > + * pseudo-NMI pays for the same reach. The plain IPI path below
> > + * can't reach such a CPU unless pseudo-NMI is enabled.
> > + *
> > * NOTE: though nmi_trigger_cpumask_backtrace() has "nmi_" in the name,
> > * nothing about it truly needs to be implemented using an NMI, it's
> > * just that it's _allowed_ to work with NMIs. If ipi_should_be_nmi()
> > * returned false our backtrace attempt will just use a regular IPI.
> > */
> > + if (sdei_nmi_trigger_cpumask_backtrace(mask, exclude_cpu))
> > + return;
> > nmi_trigger_cpumask_backtrace(mask, exclude_cpu, arm64_backtrace_ipi);
>
> nit: instead of one comment block, I would have broken it up in two. Like:
>
> /*
> * Prefer the SDEI ...
> */
> if (sdei_nmi_trigger_cpumask_backtrace(mask, exclude_cpu))
> return;
>
> /*
> * NOTE: though ...
> */
> nmi_trigger_cpumask_backtrace(...);
Makes sense.
> > }
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/firmware/Kconfig b/drivers/firmware/Kconfig
> > index bbd2155d8483..6501087ff90d 100644
> > --- a/drivers/firmware/Kconfig
> > +++ b/drivers/firmware/Kconfig
> > @@ -36,6 +36,25 @@ config ARM_SDE_INTERFACE
> > standard for registering callbacks from the platform firmware
> > into the OS. This is typically used to implement RAS notifications.
> >
> > +config ARM_SDEI_NMI
> > + bool "SDEI-based cross-CPU NMI service (arm64)"
> > + depends on ARM64 && ARM_SDE_INTERFACE
> > + help
> > + Provides SDEI-based cross-CPU NMI delivery for hooks that need
> > + to reach interrupt-masked CPUs on silicon that lacks FEAT_NMI:
> > +
> > + - arch_trigger_cpumask_backtrace() (sysrq-l, RCU stalls,
> > + hardlockup_all_cpu_backtrace, soft-lockup secondary dumps,
> > + hung-task auxiliary dumps)
> > +
> > + The driver registers a handler for the SDEI software-signalled
> > + event (event 0) and reaches a target CPU by signalling it with
> > + SDEI_EVENT_SIGNAL. Firmware delivers the event out of EL3
> > + regardless of the target's PSTATE.DAIF -- forced delivery into a
> > + CPU wedged with interrupts locally masked.
> > +
> > + If unsure, say N.
>
> Is there some downside to this? It seems like anyone who has the SDE
> interface would want this. Not sure why you'd suggest people say "N".
No real downside -- without the software-signalled event the driver
stays inert, and there is no cost until an event actually fires.
The "say N" is caution, not a technical limit: so far this has run on
QEMU (TF-A) and one hardware platform, and the interesting paths depend
on each vendor's SDEI implementation at EL3. I'm not sure vendors would
care to run SDEI_EVENT_SIGNAL validation. Maybe we want to see more
data points first?
But maybe I am too cautious. Happy to flip the recommendation (or add
default y) in v2 if that the consensus.
> Other than the nit, this looks reasoanble to me, though I'm a complete
> noob when it comes to SDEI...
>
> Reviewed-by: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Thanks!
--
Kiryl Shutsemau / Kirill A. Shutemov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-05 21:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-03 14:36 [PATCH 0/4] arm64: cross-CPU NMI via SDEI Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-06-03 14:36 ` [PATCH 1/4] firmware: arm_sdei: add SDEI_EVENT_SIGNAL support Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-06-05 20:46 ` Doug Anderson
2026-06-03 14:36 ` [PATCH 2/4] drivers/firmware: add SDEI cross-CPU NMI service for arm64 Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-06-05 20:54 ` Doug Anderson
2026-06-05 21:29 ` Kiryl Shutsemau [this message]
2026-06-03 14:36 ` [PATCH 3/4] arm64: wire SDEI NMI into the hardlockup watchdog Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-06-05 20:03 ` Doug Anderson
2026-06-05 21:11 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-06-05 22:08 ` Doug Anderson
2026-06-03 14:36 ` [PATCH 4/4] arm64: route crash_smp_send_stop() last resort through SDEI Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-06-05 20:42 ` Doug Anderson
2026-06-05 21:46 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
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