From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
To: Daniel Mentz <danielmentz@google.com>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
iommu@lists.linux.dev, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
Ashish Mhetre <amhetre@nvidia.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 10/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Invoke pm_runtime before hw access
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2026 10:27:08 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aiaY_EmbRxDxSe8-@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE2F3rDwx9qX3O0GQOJ-CQ1dqREKNp3vf_PkWWP+xmyEHRuOnQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Jun 07, 2026 at 01:17:39PM -0700, Daniel Mentz wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2026 at 12:18 AM Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 03, 2026 at 03:18:32PM -0700, Daniel Mentz wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 2:46 PM Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 01:28:15PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 10:14:06PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> > > > > > TLB and CFG invalidations are
> > > > > > elided if the SMMU is suspended by observing the CMDQ_PROD_STOP_FLAG via
> > > > > > the arm_smmu_can_elide() helper.
> > > > >
[..]
> > > Hi Pranjal,
> > >
> > > Have you observed unmap storms in a real-world use case, or is this a
> > > preemptive optimization? I would not expect a high rate of map/unmap
> > > operations while the SMMU is suspended. If a client device calls
> > > iommu_map/iommu_unmap (directly or indirectly), it suggests the client
> > > device is RPM_ACTIVE, meaning the SMMU should be active as well.
> > >
> > > I am in favor of removing arm_smmu_can_elide().
> >
> > I saw some with DMA_FQ (fq_timer does batched async invalidations) but
> > the early ellision doesn't really help with perf which I agreed to in my
> > reply to Nicolin as well.
> >
> > The early checks were dropped in v8 (except for invs_array and for the
> > WARN_ON in inv_master).
>
> Hi Pranjal,
>
> Please correct me if I'm wrong, but in v8, I can see a call to
> arm_smmu_cmdq_can_elide() at the very beginning of
> arm_smmu_domain_inv_range(). Isn't this the path every iommu_unmap
> goes through?
That's correct. In v7 there were 4-5 callsites for these checks, most of
which were dropped. This one (for invs array) was retained in v8 based on
this discussion with Nicolin [1].
Thanks,
Praan
https://lore.kernel.org/all/ahjNYqe8hjPUQIQD@Asurada-Nvidia/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-08 10:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-27 22:13 [PATCH v7 00/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement Runtime/System Sleep ops Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-27 22:13 ` [PATCH v7 01/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Refactor arm_smmu_setup_irqs Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-27 22:13 ` [PATCH v7 02/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add a helper to drain cmd queues Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-28 1:35 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28 10:34 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-28 22:09 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-29 14:32 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-27 22:13 ` [PATCH v7 03/11] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add a helper to drain VCMDQs Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-27 22:14 ` [PATCH v7 04/11] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Restore PROD and CONS after resume Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-28 18:14 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-27 22:14 ` [PATCH v7 05/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Cache and restore MSI config Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-28 18:36 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28 21:57 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-28 22:03 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-27 22:14 ` [PATCH v7 06/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Handle gerror during suspend Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-28 18:53 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28 21:59 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-27 22:14 ` [PATCH v7 07/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add CMDQ_PROD_STOP_FLAG to gate CMDQ submissions Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-28 19:41 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28 21:57 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-27 22:14 ` [PATCH v7 08/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement pm_runtime & system sleep ops Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-28 19:39 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28 21:21 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-28 22:13 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28 23:30 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-27 22:14 ` [PATCH v7 09/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Enable pm_runtime and setup devlinks Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-28 20:13 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28 21:36 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-27 22:14 ` [PATCH v7 10/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Invoke pm_runtime before hw access Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-28 20:28 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28 21:46 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-28 22:01 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28 22:25 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-28 23:18 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-29 14:48 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-03 22:18 ` Daniel Mentz
2026-06-04 7:18 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-07 20:17 ` Daniel Mentz
2026-06-08 10:27 ` Pranjal Shrivastava [this message]
2026-05-27 22:14 ` [PATCH v7 11/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add KUnit unit tests for Runtime PM Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-28 21:43 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28 23:10 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-28 23:21 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-28 23:33 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-28 18:05 ` [PATCH v7 00/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement Runtime/System Sleep ops Nicolin Chen
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