From: Itaru Kitayama <itaru.kitayama@fujitsu.com>
To: Wei-Lin Chang <weilin.chang@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>, Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
Steffen Eiden <seiden@linux.ibm.com>,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Sebastian Ene <sebastianene@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] KVM: arm64: ptdump: Shadow ptdump fixes
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2026 16:26:32 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alCeqFsNubTAt-YY@sm-arm-grace07> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m637wmil3r2bnhlw2mbj5xy5ahucbykk7b4uc6yfcz3c3dfkkj@z4hkns5sieds>
On Fri, Jul 10, 2026 at 07:43:46AM +0100, Wei-Lin Chang wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 09, 2026 at 04:34:52PM +0900, Itaru Kitayama wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 03, 2026 at 11:24:53AM +0100, Wei-Lin Chang wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 03, 2026 at 08:02:56AM +0900, Itaru Kitayama wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 08:41:43AM +0100, Wei-Lin Chang wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 03:55:48PM +0900, Itaru Kitayama wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Wei-Lin,
> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 01:09:59PM +0100, Wei-Lin Chang wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is v2 of fixing shadow ptdump debugfs files. Unfortunately I couldn't make
> > > > > > > per mmu ptdump files work after all, mainly because there isn't a clean way to
> > > > > > > locate the specific nested mmu for each ptdump file as the nested mmus could be
> > > > > > > freed when the file gets opened. Therefore in this series a single file
> > > > > > > "shadow_page_tables" is created that dumps all valid mmus' page table
> > > > > > > information.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > An advantage of this is that this new ptdump file have a lifetime identical to
> > > > > > > other ptdump files i.e. stage2_page_tables, ipa_range, etc., hence avoiding the
> > > > > > > dentry UAF found last time [1].
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With this all ptdump files are only removed when the last kvm reference gets
> > > > > > > dropped and kvm_destroy_vm_debugfs() is called, in their open(), show()
> > > > > > > functions the nested mmu array and mmu->pgt are checked with mmu_lock held to
> > > > > > > prevent UAF.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Patch 1-2: Undo previous shadow ptdump implementation.
> > > > > > > Patch 3: Fix a mmu->pgt UAF that happens when ptdump files are read after
> > > > > > > mmu->pgt is freed.
> > > > > > > Patch 4-5: Preparation for the shadow page table dump file.
> > > > > > > Patch 6: Implementation of the shadow page table dump file.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The fixes are tested with CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING,
> > > > > > > CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP, and CONFIG_KASAN.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Running your shadow stage 2 kselftest with bpftrace shows me that __kvm_pgtable_stage2_init()
> > > > > > for shadow stage 2 translation tables are built with ia_bits = 52 and
> > > > > > start_level = 0, but the debugfs entry for the active shadow stage 2 tables prints
> > > > > > out that's 3 levels. Is this fully expected?
> > > > >
> > > > > Where is this level information you are seeing from? If it is
> > > > > "stage2_level", that only reports the number of levels for the canonical
> > > > > stage-2 (non nested). For nested mmus only the page tables are dumped in
> > > > > nested/shadow_page_tables.
> > > >
> > > > Yes I know. The initial stage 2 translation table structure information is obtained by
> > > > instrumenting the kernel using eBPF fexit to __kvm_pgtable_stage2_init().
> > > >
> > > > Since you're correctly loopin over nested_mmus array, and the output is
> > > > correctly shown using the kvm_pgtable information via the kvm_s2_mmu for
> > > > them, I am confused at this moment.
> > >
> > > Two things here:
> > >
> > > Firstly ia_bits being 52 is not expected to me, as I didn't change the
> > > VM's IPA size via KVM_VM_TYPE_ARM_IPA_SIZE in the selftest, to me I
> > > would expect ia_bits to be 40 (the default). Start level being 0 looks
> > > normal.
> >
> > Instrumenting the ptdump code you're proposing I see the shadow stage 2
> > translation tables are constructed with the max 52-bit IPA; irrespective
> > of the IPA bits set in the init_s2_mmu() helper for the guest hypervisor
> > setup in the selftest, I am guessing here to me fixed? 52-bit IPA size
> > because it's awkward if nestd guest's IPA size is larger than the shadow
> > stage 2's IPA size.
>
> Sorry, I got it wrong. It is correct that shadow stage-2 translation
> tables are constructed with 52-bit IPA, irrespective of what L1 sets in
> init_s2_mmu(). This is because L1 is free to decide what memory map it
> exposes to its guest, so we only constrain it with the PARange exposed
> to the guest. Please see the comments in init_nested_s2_mmu().
Thanks for the cofirmation, yes on QEMU the "max" CPU model that's what
the PARange exposes, bpftrace was showing that too.
>
> >
> > I confirmed using the __vm_create() helper with various guest modes
> > supported that canonical stage 2's "ipa_range" changes according to the
> > guest (L1) PA size so I wonder if it is a good idea to create something like
> > shadow_ipa_range and shadow_stage2_levels files under nested directoy.
>
> I guess shadow_ipa_range and shadow_stage2_levels can be added if there
> are explicit demand for it. Although right now they aren't too difficult
> to infer from the PARange exposed to the guest.
Surely, it's up to you. If you kindly take my Tested-by: tag, that'd be
great the kernel I used for this series is the latest kvmarm/fixes, with
your series applied I can see the mapping information extracted by
walking the shadow stage 2 translation tables.
Tested-by: Itaru Kitayama <itaru.kitayama@fujitsu.com>
Thanks,
Itaru.
>
> Thanks,
> Wei-Lin Chang
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Itaru.
> >
> > >
> > > Second thing is I still can't get what you are confused about, if it's
> > > not about the first point. Note that the "3" in ptdump means it is a
> > > level 3 mapping, not saying the page tables are using 3 levels.
> > >
> > > Happy to discuss more if you clarify. I'll also check the ia_bits when I
> > > get to it.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Wei-Lin Chang
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Itaru.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Wei-Lin Chang
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Itaru.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * Changes from v1 ([2]):
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Move from per mmu ptdump files to one file that will dump all shadow page
> > > > > > > tables.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/kvmarm/ajty6I7ZqodP4ous@sm-arm-grace07/
> > > > > > > [2]: https://lore.kernel.org/kvmarm/20260623142443.648972-1-weilin.chang@arm.com/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wei-Lin Chang (6):
> > > > > > > KVM: arm64: ptdump: Remove shadow ptdump files
> > > > > > > KVM: arm64: ptdump: Undo making the ptdump code mmu aware
> > > > > > > KVM: arm64: ptdump: Fix UAF when mmu->pgt is freed
> > > > > > > KVM: arm64: ptdump: Factor out initialization of
> > > > > > > kvm_ptdump_guest_state
> > > > > > > KVM: arm64: ptdump: Extract kvm_ptdump_guest_open() from canonical
> > > > > > > ptdump path
> > > > > > > KVM: arm64: ptdump: Introduce the shadow ptdump file
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h | 5 +-
> > > > > > > arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_mmu.h | 4 -
> > > > > > > arch/arm64/kvm/nested.c | 18 +--
> > > > > > > arch/arm64/kvm/ptdump.c | 185 ++++++++++++++++++++----------
> > > > > > > 4 files changed, 135 insertions(+), 77 deletions(-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > 2.43.0
> > > > > > >
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-30 12:09 [PATCH v2 0/6] KVM: arm64: ptdump: Shadow ptdump fixes Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-30 12:10 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] KVM: arm64: ptdump: Remove shadow ptdump files Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-30 12:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] KVM: arm64: ptdump: Undo making the ptdump code mmu aware Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-30 12:10 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] KVM: arm64: ptdump: Fix UAF when mmu->pgt is freed Wei-Lin Chang
2026-07-01 15:00 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-07-01 17:27 ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-07-02 10:58 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-07-03 9:26 ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-30 12:10 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] KVM: arm64: ptdump: Factor out initialization of kvm_ptdump_guest_state Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-30 12:10 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] KVM: arm64: ptdump: Extract kvm_ptdump_guest_open() from canonical ptdump path Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-30 12:10 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] KVM: arm64: ptdump: Introduce the shadow ptdump file Wei-Lin Chang
2026-07-01 15:28 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-07-01 17:35 ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-07-02 11:00 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-07-02 21:48 ` Itaru Kitayama
2026-07-03 10:27 ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-07-02 6:55 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] KVM: arm64: ptdump: Shadow ptdump fixes Itaru Kitayama
2026-07-02 7:41 ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-07-02 23:02 ` Itaru Kitayama
2026-07-03 10:24 ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-07-09 7:34 ` Itaru Kitayama
2026-07-10 6:43 ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-07-10 7:26 ` Itaru Kitayama [this message]
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