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From: Marcus Folkesson <marcus.folkesson@gmail.com>
To: Peter Rosin <peda@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
	Michael Hennerich <michael.hennerich@analog.com>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	Andi Shyti <andi.shyti@kernel.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 2/7] i2c: mux: add idle_state property to i2c_mux_core
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2026 21:02:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alfZYOKCjf6CKN6i@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e2d4fdf8-4dae-43dc-95ae-b9aa1884fdf5@lysator.liu.se>

Hi Peter,

On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 01:29:01PM +0200, Peter Rosin wrote:
> Hi Marcus,
> 
> Sorry for the very late feedback.
> 
> On 2026-07-13 09:19, Marcus Folkesson wrote:
> > Muxes treat their channels differently when idle.
> > Let the mux core have this information to make it available for
> > internal use.
> > Reuse the same state values used by CONFIG_MULTIPLEXER.
> > 
> > Possible idle states are:
> > - MUX_IDLE_AS_IS: Leave channels as is when idle
> > - MUX_IDLE_DISCONNECT: Disconnect channel (set HiZ when idle)
> > - <n>: Enable channel n when idle
> > 
> > Default value is set to MUX_IDLE_AS_IS.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Marcus Folkesson <marcus.folkesson@gmail.com>
> > ---
> >   drivers/i2c/i2c-mux.c   |  1 +
> >   include/linux/i2c-mux.h | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >   2 files changed, 27 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/i2c/i2c-mux.c b/drivers/i2c/i2c-mux.c
> > index 681a201c239b..edf16683dc83 100644
> > --- a/drivers/i2c/i2c-mux.c
> > +++ b/drivers/i2c/i2c-mux.c
> > @@ -247,6 +247,7 @@ struct i2c_mux_core *i2c_mux_alloc(struct i2c_adapter *parent,
> >   	muxc->select = select;
> >   	muxc->deselect = deselect;
> >   	muxc->max_adapters = max_adapters;
> > +	muxc->idle_state = MUX_IDLE_AS_IS;
> 
> This is insufficient. AS_IS is simply not an adequate default.
> 
> For i2c-mux-gpmux, there is currently no way to dig out what
> the idle state is, as it is not exposed by the mux subsystem. For
> i2c-mux-gpio, the idle state depends on both the idle-state /and/
> the i2c-mux-idle-disconnect props. For i2c-mux-pca954x the idle
> state can be adjusted at runtime. Etc.
> 
> In short, idle state handling is a bit diverse, and I think this
> adds to that mess.
> 
> I think it will be a bit of work to come up with a scheme for the
> I2C mux core to accurately keep track of what the idle state is.
> One way to deal with that is to introduce a new "unknown" value
> that can be the default for all drivers that has not yet figured
> out how to feed the correct idle state to the core.
> 
> And that hints at why I think reusing the mux.h bindings #include
> is bad. The mux subsystem simply has no need for an unknown state,
> and adding that to mux.h is therefore out of place.

I see.

I think I will introduce a few defines in i2c-mux.c then;


#define I2C_MUX_IDLE_UNKNOWN	(-1)
#define I2C_MUX_IDLE_AS_IS      (-2)
#define I2C_MUX_IDLE_DISCONNECT (-3)

[...]

struct i2c_mux_core {

    [...]

	/*
	 * The mux state to use when not active.
	 * Possible idle states are:
	 *  - I2C_MUX_IDLE_UNKNOWN: Unknown idle state
	 *  - I2C_MUX_IDLE_AS_IS: Leave channels as is when idle
	 *  - I2C_MUX_IDLE_DISCONNECT: Disconnect channel (set HiZ when idle)
	 *  - <n>: Enable channel n (starting from 0) when idle"
	 *
	 * Default value is set to I2C_MUX_IDLE_UNKNOWN.
	 */
	int idle_state;

    [...]
};


Would that be a better approach?

Thanks,
Marcus Folkesson




  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-15 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-13  7:19 [PATCH v11 0/7] I2C Mux per channel bus speed Marcus Folkesson
2026-07-13  7:19 ` [PATCH v11 1/7] i2c: core: add callback to change bus frequency Marcus Folkesson
2026-07-13 16:10   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-07-13 16:11     ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-07-13  7:19 ` [PATCH v11 2/7] i2c: mux: add idle_state property to i2c_mux_core Marcus Folkesson
2026-07-14  8:49   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-07-14 11:29   ` Peter Rosin
2026-07-15 19:02     ` Marcus Folkesson [this message]
2026-07-13  7:19 ` [PATCH v11 3/7] i2c: mux: add support for per channel bus frequency Marcus Folkesson
2026-07-13  7:20 ` [PATCH v11 4/7] i2c: davinci: calculate bus freq from Hz instead of kHz Marcus Folkesson
2026-07-13  7:20 ` [PATCH v11 5/7] i2c: davinci: add support for setting bus frequency Marcus Folkesson
2026-07-13  7:20 ` [PATCH v11 6/7] i2c: mux: ltc4306: set correct idle_state in i2c_mux_core Marcus Folkesson
2026-07-13  7:20 ` [PATCH v11 7/7] docs: i2c: i2c-topology: add section about bus speed Marcus Folkesson

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