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From: tglx@linutronix.de (Thomas Gleixner)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 04/11] ST SPEAr: Added basic header files for SPEAr platform
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:42:04 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1003110040030.22855@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100310232914.GC22729@linux-sh.org>

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Paul Mundt wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 02:16:53PM -0800, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> > * Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> [100310 08:38]:
> > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Paul Mundt wrote:
> > > > This is hardly a unique situation for your platform, this is true for
> > > > most platforms. There's no reason why clockevents couldn't just be
> > > > extended and drivers could then just grab unused clockevents and pin them
> > > > accordingly. Most of the infrastructure is already in place for something
> > > > like that, without really having to do anything special.
> > > > 
> > > > Having said that, most drivers have pretty lame reasons for trying to get
> > > > at fixed timer channels, and most of the time they can easily get by with
> > > > an hrtimer instead. There's also the issue that you're effectively
> > > > bypassing nohz by having some timer channel off on the side doing who
> > > > knows what. You would need a pretty compelling reason for why you are
> > > > sidestepping all of the existing infrastructure anyways.
> > > 
> > > Right, and that's exactly the reason why we did not add the few
> > > missing bits to make clock events directly usable from drivers.
> > 
> > Yeah still no direct users so far for the 12 hardware timers on
> > omaps.. I guess the only use I could see is bit banging data
> > over a few GPIO lines using a FIQ handler.
> > 
> > Another thing to consider is that most likely all hardware timers
> > are not able to wake up the system from idle, which would easily
> > cause some mysterious errors for drivers.
> > 
> Even if most drivers shouldn't be touching clockevents directly, there
> are still legitimate cases. In SMP configurations where a single timer
> block is shared across multiple CPUs it would be easier to have the boot
> CPU register all of the timer channels under clockevents and have the
> secondaries grab one at random for setting up their local timers. (Even
> if they're not truly "local" timers, it's still a better situation than
> broadcast IPIs). clockevents would need some minor extension, including
> dealing with unregistration for the CPU hotplug case, but it's a pretty
> good fit for the problem otherwise.

No objections against that, but that's not a use case for drivers and
limited to (arch) core code functionality.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-10 23:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-03  5:07 [PATCH 00/11] Adding Support for SPEAr Platform under ARM architecture Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-03  5:07 ` [PATCH 01/11] ST SPEAr: Added ARM PrimeXsys System Controller SP810 header file Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-03  5:07   ` [PATCH 02/11] ST SPEAr: Added basic header files for SPEAr3xx machine family Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-03  5:07     ` [PATCH 03/11] ST SPEAr: Added basic header files for SPEAr6xx " Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-03  5:07       ` [PATCH 04/11] ST SPEAr: Added basic header files for SPEAr platform Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-03  5:07         ` [PATCH 05/11] ST SPEAr: Added clock framework for SPEAr platform and machines Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-03  5:07           ` [PATCH 06/11] ST SPEAr: Added source files for SPEAr platform Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-03  5:07             ` [PATCH 07/11] ST SPEAr: Added source files for SPEAr3xx machine family Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-03  5:07               ` [PATCH 08/11] ST SPEAr: Added source files for SPEAr6xx " Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-03  5:07                 ` [PATCH 09/11] ST SPEAr: Added support for SPEAr platform and machines in arch/arm/ Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-03  5:07                   ` [PATCH 10/11] ST SPEAr: Added default configuration files for SPEAr machines Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-03  5:07                     ` [PATCH 11/11] ST SPEAr: Updated Maintainers and added Documentation/arm/SPEAr Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-11 20:18                     ` [PATCH 10/11] ST SPEAr: Added default configuration files for SPEAr machines Linus Walleij
2010-03-11 20:26                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-12  4:12                       ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-09  6:46               ` [PATCH 07/11] ST SPEAr: Added source files for SPEAr3xx machine family Linus Walleij
2010-03-09  7:05                 ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-10  5:15                   ` Linus Walleij
2010-03-10  6:10                     ` viresh kumar
2010-03-11 10:41                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-12  5:19                   ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-11 11:22             ` [PATCH 06/11] ST SPEAr: Added source files for SPEAr platform Linus Walleij
2010-03-11  7:00           ` [PATCH 05/11] ST SPEAr: Added clock framework for SPEAr platform and machines Linus Walleij
2010-03-11 10:18             ` Shiraz HASHIM
2010-03-12  8:46               ` Linus Walleij
2010-03-12  4:19             ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-11 10:28           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-12  4:22             ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-10  5:40         ` [PATCH 04/11] ST SPEAr: Added basic header files for SPEAr platform Linus Walleij
2010-03-10  6:32           ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-10  9:31             ` Linus Walleij
2010-03-10 10:11               ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-10 14:16                 ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-10 16:36                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-10 22:16                     ` Tony Lindgren
2010-03-10 23:29                       ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-10 23:42                         ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2010-03-11  6:43                 ` Linus Walleij
2010-03-11  9:47                   ` Shiraz HASHIM
2010-03-11 11:26                     ` Linus Walleij
2010-03-09 20:42     ` [PATCH 02/11] ST SPEAr: Added basic header files for SPEAr3xx machine family Linus Walleij
2010-03-10  6:01       ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-10  6:07         ` Linus Walleij
2010-03-11 10:33     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-12  4:39       ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-09 20:14   ` [PATCH 01/11] ST SPEAr: Added ARM PrimeXsys System Controller SP810 header file Linus Walleij
2010-03-10  5:09     ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-11 10:45     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-12  5:19       ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-03-07 15:54 ` [PATCH 00/11] Adding Support for SPEAr Platform under ARM architecture viresh kumar
2010-03-08 13:48   ` Armando VISCONTI

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