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From: nico@fluxnic.net (Nicolas Pitre)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Building for MMU-less vexpress targets
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 18:14:06 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1211061802240.21033@xanadu.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201211062114.49933.arnd@arndb.de>

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012, Arnd Bergmann wrote:

> On Tuesday 06 November 2012, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> > I really think that it makes no sense at all to support !MMU kernels in 
> > a multi-platform kernel build, even if the set of included platforms 
> > were all !MMU.  The kernel has to be linked for the physical address of 
> > the target and not a common invariant virtual address.
> 
> There are two separate aspects here: One is to run a kernel on !MMU that is
> built to support multiple platforms. I agree that this is rather pointless
> and not interesting.
> 
> The other point is being able to build such a kernel, and this is what Will
> seems to be interested in more.

What's the point of building a pointless and uninteresting kernel?

Sure, wide build coverage is good.  But pointless builds are not.  
Comes a point where Kconfig should serve its purpose i.e. help the user 
make a valid kernel configuration for himself.  And I really think that 
multi-platform and !MMU together don't make for a valid configuration 
anymore.

> We have made VEXPRESS depend on MULTIPLATFORM, which broke support for 
> building a non-MMU vexpress kernel, and I think we should fix that.

No argument there.

> The two options are either to make
> vexpress be single-platform when building for !MMU, or to allow multiplatform
> kernels to be built without MMU support in principle. I think the second
> option is more logical and avoids complex Kconfig constructs.

Well, I'd rather prefer to think that the first option is the most 
logical between those 2 options, regardless of Kconfig complexity 
issues.

I didn't look, but just making MULTIPLATFORM depend on !MMU, and 
VEXPRESS depend on MULTIPLATFORM || MMU should be close to what is 
needed, no?


Nicolas

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-06 23:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-05 17:36 Building for MMU-less vexpress targets Will Deacon
2012-11-05 18:03 ` Pawel Moll
2012-11-05 18:13   ` Will Deacon
2012-11-05 19:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-11-06 12:20   ` Will Deacon
2012-11-06 17:33     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-11-06 18:34       ` Will Deacon
2012-11-06 20:35         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-11-06 20:58       ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-11-06 21:14         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-11-06 22:14           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-11-06 22:59             ` Rob Herring
2012-11-07 12:59             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-11-07 13:39               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-11-06 23:14           ` Nicolas Pitre [this message]
2012-11-07 10:21             ` Will Deacon
2012-11-07 13:29             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-08 19:01             ` Jonathan Austin
2013-01-08 19:11               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-08 19:22                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-11-06 22:51         ` Jamie Lokier
2012-11-06 23:40           ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-11-06 23:46             ` Jamie Lokier

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