From: fthain@telegraphics.com.au (Finn Thain)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 01/13] arm: Fix mutual exclusion in arch_gettimeoffset
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 14:17:09 +1100 (AEDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.21.1811141142490.8@nippy.intranet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181113234336.GP30658@n2100.armlinux.org.uk>
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>
> A clocksource provides a cycle counter that monotonically changes and
> does not wrap between clockevent events.
>
> A clock event is responsible for providing events to the system when
> some work is needing to be done, limited by the wrap interval of the
> clocksource.
>
> Each time the clock event triggers an interrupt, the clocksource is
> read to determine how much time has passed, using:
>
> count = (new_value - old_value) & available_bits
> nanosecs = count * scale >> shift;
>
> If you try to combine the clocksource and clockevent because you only
> have a single counter, and the counter has the behaviour of:
> - counting down towards zero
> - when reaching zero, triggers an interrupt, and reloads with N
>
> then this provides your clockevent, but you can't use this as a clock
> source, because each time you receive an interrupt and try to read the
> counter value, it will be approximately the same value. This means
> that the above calculation fails to register the correct number of
> nanoseconds passing. Hence, this does not work.
>
> Also note where I said above that the clock event device must be able
> to provide an interrupt _before_ the clocksource wraps - clearly with
> such a timer, that is utterly impossible.
>
> The simple solution is to not use such a counter as the clocksource,
> which means you fall back to using the jiffies clocksource, and your
> timekeeping has jiffy resolution - so 10ms, or possibly 1ms if you
> want a 1kHz timer interval. For most applications, that's simply way
> to coarse, as was realised in the very early days of Linux.
>
> If only there was a way to interpolate between timer interrupts...
> which is exactly what arch_gettimeoffset() does, and is a historical
> reminant of the pre-clocksource/clockevent days of the kernel - but
> it is the only way to get better resolution from this sort of setup.
>
Both of the platforms in question (RPC and EBSA110) have not
defined(CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS) and have not defined any struct
clock_event_device, AFAICT.
So, even assuming that you're right about the limitations of single-timer
platforms in general, removal of arch_gettimeoffset wouldn't require the
removal of any platforms, AFAICT.
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2018-11-12 4:12 ` [RFC PATCH 01/13] arm: Fix mutual exclusion in arch_gettimeoffset Finn Thain
2018-11-12 8:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-13 3:39 ` Finn Thain
2018-11-13 9:20 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-13 21:55 ` Finn Thain
2018-11-13 23:43 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-14 1:35 ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-14 7:58 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-15 1:34 ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-14 3:17 ` Finn Thain [this message]
2018-11-14 14:16 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-14 14:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-11-14 18:11 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-15 4:12 ` Finn Thain
2018-11-16 17:47 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-16 22:49 ` Finn Thain
2018-11-17 3:00 ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-14 12:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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