From: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>
To: Leon Hwang <leon.hwang@linux.dev>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: ftrace: enable single ftrace_ops for direct calls
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2026 22:44:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <am-sK_buCVI3khJv@krava> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3f8e64b4-e60a-4eba-afb6-5af668ac1f85@linux.dev>
On Fri, Jul 31, 2026 at 10:30:37AM +0800, Leon Hwang wrote:
> On 30/7/26 18:58, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2026 at 11:05:42AM +0800, Leon Hwang wrote:
> >> On 29/7/26 19:56, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2026 at 10:28:43PM +0800, Leon Hwang wrote:
> >>>> The BPF tracing multi link updates several direct-call sites through one
> >>>> ftrace_ops. Its implementation is therefore gated by
> >>>> HAVE_SINGLE_FTRACE_DIRECT_OPS in addition to
> >>>> DYNAMIC_FTRACE_WITH_DIRECT_CALLS.
> >>>>
> >>>> Select HAVE_SINGLE_FTRACE_DIRECT_OPS whenever arm64 enables dynamic ftrace
> >>>> direct calls. This enables BPF tracing multi links on arm64. Also
> >>>> generalize the unreachable-trampoline comment because the single-ops path
> >>>> does not use ops->direct_call.
> >>>
> >>> hi,
> >>> iirc arm needs ops->direct_call for trampolines to work properly,
> >>> that's the reason we enabled single ftrace_ops on x86 only:
> >>>
> >>> 424f6a361096 bpf,x86: Use single ftrace_ops for direct calls
> >>>
> >>> I don't understand the arm usage of op->direct_call, but it looks like
> >>> (codex thinks) that the fast path won't always work without op->direct_call
> >>> being set
> >>
> >>
> >> In theory, op->direct_call is the fallback for the case:
> >> HAVE_DYNAMIC_FTRACE_WITH_CALL_OPS=y, out-of-range target, and non-BPF
> >> direct ops. This is what Codex thinks about.
> >>
> >> However, after searching the call sites of
> >> register_ftrace_direct()/__modify_ftrace_direct() in kernel, which would
> >> set ops->direct_call, the actual callers are in bpf/trampoline.c, which
> >> have been gated with HAVE_SINGLE_FTRACE_DIRECT_OPS. That said, for
> >> normal usage of HAVE_SINGLE_FTRACE_DIRECT_OPS=y, op->direct_call is unused.
> >>
> >> If someone uses register_ftrace_direct() or
> >> modify_ftrace_direct/_nolock() outside BPF in the future,
> >> op->direct_call will be used.
> >
> > so any 2nd user on the same function triggers the slow path,
> > and that's fine, the single_ops handles slow path correctly
> >
> > but IIUC the out-of-range target will now always go through slow path,
> > which in current code it doesn't, right?
> >
>
> Right.
>
> Pls see the sibling thread with Ihor. With in-range BPF trampoline
> allocation, the slow-path regression should mostly disappear.
>
> Let's continue the discussion in that thread.
please paste the link/subject for that thread
thanks,
jirka
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-02 20:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-27 14:28 [PATCH 0/2] arm64: ftrace: enable single ftrace_ops for direct calls Leon Hwang
2026-07-27 14:28 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Leon Hwang
2026-07-29 11:56 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-07-30 3:05 ` Leon Hwang
2026-07-30 10:58 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-07-31 2:30 ` Leon Hwang
2026-08-02 20:44 ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2026-08-03 1:32 ` Leon Hwang
2026-08-03 19:48 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-07-30 23:03 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-07-31 2:21 ` Leon Hwang
2026-07-27 14:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] selftests/bpf: Enable tracing_multi tests on arm64 Leon Hwang
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