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From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Joerg Roedel (AMD)" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/11] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Warn on a VCMDQ base above the 48-bit hardware limit
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2026 11:06:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <amZMlusLNS7WwtED@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <amYEQt7Y5MC48kRD@willie-the-truck>

On Sun, Jul 26, 2026 at 01:57:38PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 01:55:07PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > tegra241_vcmdq_alloc_smmu_cmdq() allocates the VCMDQ buffer via the common
> > arm_smmu_init_one_queue(), which uses smmu->dev and its coherent DMA mask
> > of DMA_BIT_MASK(smmu->oas). The architectural Q_BASE_ADDR_MASK is 52 bits,
> > but the Tegra241 VCMDQ_BASE holds only 48 (VCMDQ_ADDR), so the masked write
> > "q_base = base_dma & VCMDQ_ADDR" silently drops bits 48 and up.
> > 
> > A real Tegra241 never reports a 52-bit OAS alongside the 48-bit VCMDQ, so
> > this cannot happen on correct hardware, but a buggy or hostile hypervisor
> > could still advertise such an OAS to a guest. The user-VCMDQ path already
> > rejects a base_addr_pa with bits set outside VCMDQ_ADDR; add the same guard
> > to the kernel-allocated path, failing the queue init rather than silently
> > truncating the base. Use dev_warn_once() rather than WARN_ON(): the OAS is
> > hypervisor-controlled, and a WARN_ON() would let it panic a guest that is
> > booted with panic_on_warn.
> 
> So here you talk about "a buggy or hostile hypervisor". Is that really
> part of the threat model?

Yea, existing real chips have a matched 48-bit address field with
OAS=5 (48-bit). The only possible scenario is a buggy VMM exposing
a mismatched OAS value to the VM. Perhaps we could drop "hostile".

> Presumably such a thing could cause havoc in
> a million other ways?

Maybe, it's a defensive play here.

A buggy VMM can absorb the mismatch for the SMMU CMDQ, by reading
the high-order bits of the Q_BASE_ADDR field, since the guest SMMU
driver wouldn't truncate those bits. But, in VCMDQ case, it would
get truncated silently, which can lead to VCMDQ errors (IRQs).

> > @@ -674,6 +674,19 @@ static int tegra241_vcmdq_alloc_smmu_cmdq(struct tegra241_vcmdq *vcmdq)
> >  	if (ret)
> >  		return ret;
> >  
> > +	/*
> > +	 * The q->base_dma is bounded by DMA_BIT_MASK of SMMU's IDR5.OAS. On a
> > +	 * real hardware, VCMDQ_ADDR mask and IDR5.OAS are always aligned. But
> > +	 * a buggy VM might set a mismatched IDR5.OAS for SMMU. Spit a warning
> > +	 * instead of a silent truncation.
> > +	 */
> 
> But then here you talk about "a buggy VM might set a mismatched IDR5.OAS".
> How can a VM write to that?

Oh, this is a typo; it should be "VMM".

Thanks
Nicolin


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-26 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-14 20:54 [PATCH v2 00/11] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Fix error-interrupt races and VINTF lifecycle bugs Nicolin Chen
2026-07-14 20:54 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Publish an LVCMDQ only after it is fully initialized Nicolin Chen
2026-07-14 20:54 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Synchronize the error ISR against VINTF (de)init Nicolin Chen
2026-07-14 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Harden error-map index handling in the error ISR Nicolin Chen
2026-07-14 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Don't run the error ISR before probe sets up vintfs Nicolin Chen
2026-07-14 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Don't fall back to a freed smmu after devm_krealloc() Nicolin Chen
2026-07-14 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Free the error IRQ before tearing down VINTFs Nicolin Chen
2026-07-14 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Reject a vSID wider than the SID_MATCH field Nicolin Chen
2026-07-14 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Require exactly one Stream ID for a vSID Nicolin Chen
2026-07-14 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Fix VINTF0 leak on the init-failure path Nicolin Chen
2026-07-14 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Warn on a VCMDQ base above the 48-bit hardware limit Nicolin Chen
2026-07-26 12:57   ` Will Deacon
2026-07-26 18:06     ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2026-07-14 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Rate-limit the error ISR's log message Nicolin Chen
2026-07-15 17:44 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Fix error-interrupt races and VINTF lifecycle bugs Nicolin Chen

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