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From: Vincent Donnefort <vdonnefort@google.com>
To: Fuad Tabba <fuad.tabba@linux.dev>
Cc: maz@kernel.org, oupton@kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, joey.gouly@arm.com,
	seiden@linux.ibm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com,
	yuzenghui@huawei.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
	kernel-team@android.com, qperret@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 10/17] KVM: arm64: Add a shrinker for pKVM
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2026 08:22:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ao1CspwFUHyhj0dE@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+EHjTxraCfN1bfZ9ygRiyxxyEPeHw4mg6f6O0qzPBpFi165Qg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 07:10:37PM +0100, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2026 at 17:38, Vincent Donnefort <vdonnefort@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 18, 2026 at 04:28:38PM +0100, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> > > Hi Vincent,
> > >
> > > On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 at 15:36, 'Vincent Donnefort' via kernel-team
> > > <kernel-team@android.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Integrate the pKVM memory reclaim interface with the host's memory
> > > > management subsystem.
> > > >
> > > > This allows the host to automatically recover unused memory fom the
> > > > hypervisor's heap allocator when the host is under memory pressure.
> > > >
> > > > Tested-by: Fuad Tabba <fuad.tabba@linux.dev>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Vincent Donnefort <vdonnefort@google.com>
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/pkvm.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/pkvm.c
> > > > index d28422f5c3d6..bfbb1266491d 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/pkvm.c
> > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/pkvm.c
> > > > @@ -115,7 +115,7 @@ static int pkvm_hyp_topup(enum pkvm_topup_id id, unsigned long nr_pages)
> > > >         return ret;
> > > >  }
> > > >
> > > > -static __maybe_unused unsigned long pkvm_hyp_reclaim(enum pkvm_topup_id id, unsigned long target)
> > > > +static unsigned long pkvm_hyp_reclaim(enum pkvm_topup_id id, unsigned long target)
> > >
> > > This is the first caller of these, so it is where reclaim starts
> > > running against a concurrent top-up.
> > >
> > > Nothing marks the pages a top-up just put in allocator->mc as spoken
> > > for, and hyp_allocator_reclaim() ends with an unbounded drain of it,
> > > so a shrink with target 1 hands back the lot. Land that between a
> > > top-up and the retry it was for, and the retry asks again, and
> > > pkvm_call_hyp_req() goes round.
> >
> > Sorry, I am not sure I follow here.
> >
> > IIRC, the shrinker will only reclaim half of what is available. So the pressure
> > should be proportional to what is available and limit races with topup!
> 
> It's the ordering, not the amount.

Do you think we should first try to reclaim from the mapped pages before
draining the allocator->mc? 

Mapped pages are more valuable hence why I have started with allocator->mc.

But, it is true it might make sense. It is unlikely to have pages left unused
into that mc. If that mc has been topped-up that's because it is about to be
allocated from...

> 
> topup and its retry are separate hypercalls, lock dropped between
> them, so a shrink on another CPU can slip in, right? .
> hyp_allocator_reclaim() drains allocator->mc, where the topup pages
> sit, before any chunk, so half still comes out of them first: a target
> of 1 fails the retry.

I do not see where a target == 1 fails.

> 
> >
> > However now looking at it. I wonder if I don't want to ratelimit here the number
> > of pages reclaimed in one go to limit the time spent at EL2. Especially we do
> > all that with the allocator lock taken...
> 
> Ratelimiting would cap the time under the lock, but it wouldn't stop a
> concurrent shrink from taking the topup pages, would it?

Yes, my only intent is to avoid blocking at EL2 for too long.

-- 
Vincent

> 
> Cheers,
> /fuad
> 
> 
> >

[...]


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-25  7:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-31 14:35 [PATCH v4 00/17] KVM: arm64: Introduce pKVM hypervisor heap allocator Vincent Donnefort
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 01/17] KVM: arm64: Add pkvm_private_va_range_pa Vincent Donnefort
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 02/17] KVM: arm64: Add pkvm_remove_mappings Vincent Donnefort
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 03/17] KVM: arm64: Add pkvm_map_private_va_range Vincent Donnefort
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 04/17] KVM: arm64: Add a heap allocator for the pKVM hyp Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-18 14:22   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-08-24 15:19     ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] KVM: arm64: Allow kvm_hyp_memcache usage outside of stage-2 Vincent Donnefort
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 06/17] KVM: arm64: Add pkvm_hyp_req infrastructure Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-25  7:41   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-08-25  8:10     ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-25  8:51       ` Fuad Tabba
2026-08-25 13:28       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 07/17] KVM: arm64: Add PKVM_HYP_REQ_HYP_ALLOC request Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-18 15:12   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 08/17] KVM: arm64: Add reclaim interface for the pKVM heap alloc Vincent Donnefort
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 09/17] KVM: arm64: Add selftests for the pKVM heap allocator Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-18 15:43   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-08-24 16:23     ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-24 18:15       ` Fuad Tabba
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 10/17] KVM: arm64: Add a shrinker for pKVM Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-18 15:28   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-08-24 16:38     ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-24 18:10       ` Fuad Tabba
2026-08-25  7:22         ` Vincent Donnefort [this message]
2026-08-25  7:40           ` Fuad Tabba
2026-08-25  8:20             ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-25  8:38               ` Fuad Tabba
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 11/17] KVM: arm64: Filter out non-kernel addresses in kern_hyp_va Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-18 14:45   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-08-25  9:34     ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 12/17] KVM: arm64: Move hyp_vm refcount into the structure Vincent Donnefort
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 13/17] KVM: arm64: Alloc pkvm_hyp_vm using pKVM heap allocator Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-17 13:38   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 14/17] KVM: arm64: Alloc pkvm_hyp_vcpu " Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-17 13:39   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 15/17] KVM: arm64: Reject hyp trace descriptors with fewer CPUs than hyp_nr_cpus Vincent Donnefort
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 16/17] KVM: arm64: Reject hyp trace descriptors with fewer than 3 pages Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-17 14:00   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-07-31 14:35 ` [PATCH v4 17/17] KVM: arm64: Alloc simple_buffer_page using pKVM hyp allocator Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-17 14:16   ` Fuad Tabba

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