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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	 Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	 Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	 Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	 Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	 Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	 linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/12] arm64/module: Fix BTI exceptions caused by omitted landing pads in Clang 21
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2026 11:46:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aoIEVL0M2QPNIOO3@jpoimboe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6c7153d7-67d1-46ce-afb0-688fca871c66@app.fastmail.com>

On Sun, Aug 16, 2026 at 04:49:59PM +0300, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2026, at 12:41, Will Deacon wrote:
> > Overall, it seems to me like there are three cases we need to consider
> > for re-enabling BTI in the kernel:
> >
> > 1. A cross-section call that spans beyond the 128M range and therefore
> >    needs a veneer. I think the static linker should resolve this, probably
> >    by emitting a second veneer with the landing pad. Do we know if LLD
> >    gets this right?
> >
> 
> There are two variants here:
> 
> A cross-section call .init.text to .text that spans beyond the 128M range:
> 
> 1a. inside vmlinux, which should be dealt with by the linker, but which might
> be unreliable in practice due to the lack of BTI annotations in asm files,
> missing exec permissions on ELF sections etc. This is addressed by this series,
> but is only an issue for unusually large kernel images (e.g., allyesconfig).

Right, and if we don't care about the >128MB kernel case (I have no idea
if anybody actually uses that big of a kernel?), then we can basically
just drop patches 3-11 in favor of a simple linker assertion (similar to
patches 5 and 6) which just *always* triggers a build error on a large
kernel + BTI + !COMPILE_TEST.

-- 
Josh


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-16 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-15  4:45 [PATCH 00/12] arm64/bti: Fix kernel BTI issues with livepatch, large kernels, toolchains Josh Poimboeuf
2026-08-15  4:45 ` [PATCH 01/12] arm64/bti: Add BTI landing pad to __sdei_asm_handler() Josh Poimboeuf
2026-08-15  5:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-15  4:45 ` [PATCH 02/12] arm64/module: Fix BTI exceptions caused by omitted landing pads in Clang 21 Josh Poimboeuf
2026-08-15  5:00   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-15  9:56   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2026-08-15 18:57     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2026-08-16  9:41     ` Will Deacon
2026-08-16 13:49       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2026-08-16 18:46         ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2026-08-15  4:45 ` [PATCH 03/12] arm64/bti: Fix BTI linker failures with long branches into .idmap.text Josh Poimboeuf
2026-08-15  4:45 ` [PATCH 04/12] arm64/bti: Work around ld crash caused by linker script aliases Josh Poimboeuf
2026-08-15  4:45 ` [PATCH 05/12] arm64/bti: Add link error for large kernels with BTI and unsupported toolchains Josh Poimboeuf
2026-08-15  4:45 ` [PATCH 06/12] arm64/bti: Add link error for large kernels with BTI and livepatch Josh Poimboeuf
2026-08-15  4:45 ` [PATCH 07/12] arm64/bti: Advertise BTI in assembly objects Josh Poimboeuf
2026-08-15  5:03   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-15 21:53   ` Mark Brown
2026-08-15  4:45 ` [PATCH 08/12] arm64/bti: Enable BTI in the pi/ startup code Josh Poimboeuf
2026-08-15  4:45 ` [PATCH 09/12] efi/libstub: Preserve the GNU property note Josh Poimboeuf
2026-08-15  4:45 ` [PATCH 10/12] efi/libstub: Remove obsolete .note.gnu.property workaround Josh Poimboeuf
2026-08-15  4:45 ` [PATCH 11/12] arm64/bti: Force-enable BTI linker veneers Josh Poimboeuf
2026-08-15  5:00   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-15  4:45 ` [PATCH 12/12] arm64/bti: Enable kernel BTI for GCC Josh Poimboeuf

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