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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Nikos Nikoleris <nikos.nikoleris@arm.com>,
	Linu Cherian <linu.cherian@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	Nanyong Sun <sunnanyong@huawei.com>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Frank van der Linden <fvdl@google.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/18] arm64: Implement try_update_vmemmap_pte using the AF trick
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2026 15:10:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aoRn3Fn1dhTdsk6d@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260708031129.3503195-9-jthoughton@google.com>

On Wed, Jul 08, 2026 at 03:11:18AM +0000, James Houghton wrote:
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
> index 5f21d3a738ee..7b11aa41d0a0 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
> @@ -1302,8 +1302,7 @@ static inline void __pte_clear(struct mm_struct *mm,
>  	__set_pte(ptep, __pte(0));
>  }
>  
> -static inline bool __ptep_test_and_clear_young(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> -		unsigned long address, pte_t *ptep)
> +static inline pte_t __ptep_clear_young(pte_t *ptep)
>  {
>  	pte_t old_pte, pte;
>  
> @@ -1315,7 +1314,13 @@ static inline bool __ptep_test_and_clear_young(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>  					       pte_val(old_pte), pte_val(pte));
>  	} while (pte_val(pte) != pte_val(old_pte));
>  
> -	return pte_young(pte);
> +	return pte;
> +}

At some point, we should use LSE atomics directly here if supported
rather than a CAS loop (well, this is LSE as well if supported but it
doesn't guarantee forward progress of the loop). I reckon we can replace
it with some test_and_clear_bit_relaxed() call.

> +static inline bool __ptep_test_and_clear_young(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> +		unsigned long address, pte_t *ptep)
> +{
> +	return pte_young(__ptep_clear_young(ptep));
>  }
>  
>  static inline bool __ptep_clear_flush_young(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> @@ -1793,6 +1798,48 @@ static inline void pte_clear(struct mm_struct *mm,
>  	__pte_clear(mm, addr, ptep);
>  }
>  
> +#define __HAVE_ARCH_TRY_UPDATE_VMEMMAP_PTE
> +static inline int try_update_vmemmap_pte(unsigned long addr, pte_t *ptep,
> +					 const pte_t pte)
> +{
> +	const int max_attempts = 16;
> +	int attempts = 0;
> +	pte_t old_pte;
> +
> +	if (!system_supports_hvo())
> +		return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> +
> +	/* This routine is only to be used for valid-to-valid transitions. */
> +	if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!pte_valid(pte)))
> +		return -EINVAL;
> +
> +	old_pte = __ptep_get(ptep);
> +
> +	do {
> +		if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!pte_valid(old_pte)))
> +			return -EINVAL;
> +
> +		/* We should never get a contiguous PTE here. */
> +		if (WARN_ON_ONCE(pte_valid_cont(old_pte)))
> +			return -EINVAL;
> +
> +		if (pte_young(old_pte)) {
> +			/* __ptep_clear_young() returns the overwritten PTE */
> +			old_pte = pte_mkold(__ptep_clear_young(ptep));
> +
> +			flush_tlb_kernel_range(addr, addr + PAGE_SIZE);
> +		}

I think this is going to do a lot of TLBIs given that the default kernel
prot has PTE_AF. It somewhat defeats the VMEMMAP_REMAP_NO_TLB_FLUSH
flag but I haven't figured exactly how this optimisation works.

If it becomes a problem, we could do a first pass to clear AF as an
optimisation or later via vmemmap_split_pmd(), only map with AF=0. We
still have some page copying that touches the vmemmap, bringing AF back.
Of course, you'd still need the above flush, just wondering whether we
can reduce/coalesce it.

> +	/*
> +	 * Translations without AF cannot be cached, so we can replace
> +	 * them without BBM.
> +	 */
> +	} while (!try_cmpxchg_relaxed(&pte_val(*ptep), &pte_val(old_pte),
> +				      pte_val(pte)) &&
> +		 ++attempts < max_attempts);
> +
> +	return attempts == max_attempts ? -EAGAIN : 0;
> +}

Here, indeed, we do need this bounded, otherwise some pathological cases
may set the AF continuously.

-- 
Catalin


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-18 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-08  3:11 [PATCH 00/18] Another attempt at HVO support on arm64 James Houghton
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 01/18] hugetlb_vmemmap: Always flush TLB if needed upon PTE remapping James Houghton
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 02/18] hugetlb_vmemmap: Move vmemmap_get_tail up James Houghton
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 03/18] hugetlb_vmemmap: Leave pages partially HVOed upon restore failure James Houghton
2026-08-18 14:07   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 04/18] hugetlb_vmemmap: Use try_update_vmemmap_pte to update in-use PTEs James Houghton
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 05/18] hugetlb_vmemmap: Allow architectures not to allow HVO at runtime James Houghton
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 06/18] arm64: Rename cpu_has_hw_af to system_has_hw_af James Houghton
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 07/18] arm64: Add system_supports_hvo James Houghton
2026-08-18 14:07   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 08/18] arm64: Implement try_update_vmemmap_pte using the AF trick James Houghton
2026-08-18 14:10   ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 09/18] arm64: Prevent HVO if the HVO system feature is not enabled James Houghton
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 10/18] arm64: Support hugetlb vmemmap optimization James Houghton
2026-08-18 14:16   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 11/18] hugetlb_vmemmap: Use try_populate_vmemmap_pmd for replacing in-use PMDs James Houghton
2026-08-18 15:53   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 12/18] arm64: Implement try_populate_vmemmap_pmd using AF trick James Houghton
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 13/18] arm64: Drop BBML2_NOABORT requirement for HVO James Houghton
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 14/18] hugetlb_vmemmap: Rename mm/hugetlb_vmemmap.h to mm/hugetlb_vmemmap_internal.h James Houghton
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 15/18] hugetlb_vmemmap: Add a way to permanently disable HVO when needed James Houghton
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 16/18] arm64: Allow "optional" CPU features to be required sometimes James Houghton
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 17/18] arm64: Permit onlining of HVO-incompatible late CPUs if HVO is not in use James Houghton
2026-07-08  3:11 ` [PATCH 18/18] arm64: Remove user-selectable HVO Kconfig James Houghton
     [not found] ` <FC9E78F0-8FF7-44AF-A848-8401B4702488@linux.dev>
2026-07-08 16:49   ` [PATCH 00/18] Another attempt at HVO support on arm64 James Houghton
2026-07-09  9:54     ` Muchun Song
2026-07-09 19:04       ` James Houghton
2026-07-10  3:40         ` Muchun Song
2026-07-13  4:09           ` James Houghton
2026-07-14  6:40             ` Muchun Song
2026-07-11  2:22         ` Muchun Song
2026-07-13  4:09           ` James Houghton
2026-07-09  9:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-10  4:58 ` Muchun Song
2026-07-13  4:59   ` James Houghton
2026-07-13  7:41     ` Muchun Song
2026-07-13 11:26       ` Dev Jain
2026-07-14  8:46 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-07-15  9:38   ` James Houghton
2026-08-17 17:34 ` Catalin Marinas

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