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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Steffen Eiden <seiden@linux.ibm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 02/23] KVM: Make device name configurable
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2026 07:32:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <apmFClPZ2WcDINmT@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <apmEi1NmOUvmUBFP@google.com>

On Thu, Sep 03, 2026, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 03, 2026, Steffen Eiden wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 02, 2026 at 09:14:21AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > And taking things a few steps further, we can solve the MMIO issue in a more
> > > elegant way, and eliminate the runtime string building in this patch (after looking
> > > more closely, that code needs to be jettisoned no matter what, there's simply no
> > > reason to specify the names at runtime since they're separate compilation units).
> > > 
> > > Rather than splatter #defines throughout header files, deal with the bulk of the
> > > pain in Makefile.kvm.  By feeding conditionals into Makefile.kvm, the s390+arm64
> > > build can easily omit coalesced_mmio.o and async_pf.o, define __KVM_HAVE_ARCH_MMIO
> > > programatically without having to change other architectures, and solve the naming
> > > stuff.
> > 
> > Yes, this is a great idea. Thank you. I second you, this looks more clean
> > and stable than the stuff we came up with :) 
> 
> Looking more at arch/s390/kvm/Kconfig and virt/kvm/Kconfig, we might need/want to
> to build out infrastructure to handle this sort of thing in a more generic fashion?
> 
> Which probably isn't that much infrastructure?  It's more just changing how arch
> code communicates with common KVM?  I.e. instead of providing boolean configs in
> virt/kvm/Kconfig, formalize communicating HAVE-type macros through the Makefile.
> That might even be a net positive in the long run, as it will make it easier to
> provide defaults for the common cases.
> 
> I say that because unless there's magic I'm unaware of these Kconfigs also needs
> to be configured per-KVM, not per-kernel:
> 
>   - KVM_MMU_LOCKLESS_AGING, otherwise aging on arm64 will unintentionally be done
>     outside of mmu_lock.
> 
>   - KVM_GENERIC_PRE_FAULT_MEMORY, so that arm64 doesn't need to provide a stub
>     for something it doesn't support
> 
>   - HAVE_KVM_MSI, because presumably it's needed for arm64 support.
> 
>   - HAVE_KVM_READONLY_MEM, same story as HAVE_KVM_MSI.

And in the opposite direction, HAVE_KVM_VCPU_RUN_PID_CHANGE also falls into this
category.  That one is probably better handled as a #define in header files?

> Which isn't _that_ many knobs, but add in KVM_MMIO, KVM_ASYNC_PF, and
> KVM_ASYNC_PF_SYNC, and it's enough that I think we should think about the big
> picture and not play whack-a-mole.
> 
> Actually, thinking about this more, what I've proposed here, plus the pattern of
> #define-ing macros in arch-specific kvm_host.h files, should suffice.  For things
> like __KVM_HAVE_ARCH_VM_FREE, it absolutely makes sense to #define the macro in
> kvm_host.h since it's very directly tied to an arch callback.  Whereas with KVM_MIO
> and KVM_ASYNC_PF, because they enable compilation of C files, it makes sense to
> define them in Makefiles.
> 
> So I think the "gap" is purely that the four knobs listed above need handling
> (and arguably KVM_MMU_LOCKLESS_AGING is ok as-proposed).  But I do think we should
> try our best to be more thoughtful than we usually are when deciding how to enable
> common code, because obviously s390+arm64 is adding wrinkles no one has had to deal
> with before.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-03 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-31 14:47 [PATCH v7 00/23] KVM: s390: Introduce arm64 KVM Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 01/23] vfio: Use file-based reference counting for KVM Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 02/23] KVM: Make device name configurable Steffen Eiden
2026-09-02  0:40   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-02  7:50     ` Steffen Eiden
2026-09-02 16:14       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-03 11:42         ` Steffen Eiden
2026-09-03 14:30           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-03 14:32             ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-09-03 14:45               ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-03 14:55                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-09-03 15:54                   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-03 19:13                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-09-03 20:58                       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-03 15:48           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 03/23] KVM: Allow KVM implementations to switch off MMIO independent of Kconfig Steffen Eiden
2026-09-02  0:38   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-02  8:22     ` Steffen Eiden
2026-09-02  8:30     ` Marc Zyngier
2026-09-02  9:13       ` Steffen Eiden
2026-09-02 13:00         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-02 15:50           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 04/23] arm64: Use proper include variant Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 05/23] arm64: ptrace: Use constants for compat register numbers Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 06/23] arm64: sysreg: Convert SPSR_ELx to automatic register generation Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 07/23] KVM: arm64: Access elements of vcpu_gp_regs individually Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 08/23] KVM: arm64: Use accessor functions for core regs Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 09/23] arm64: Prepare sharing arm64 headers with s390 Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 10/23] arm64: Share " Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 11/23] KVM: arm64: Share arm64 code " Steffen Eiden
2026-09-01  8:13   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-09-01  8:40     ` Steffen Eiden
2026-09-02  7:41       ` Marc Zyngier
2026-09-02 12:41         ` Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 12/23] s390/tools: Use arm64 headers Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 13/23] KVM: s390: Use arm64 code Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 14/23] KVM: s390: Prepare KVM/s390 for a second KVM module Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 15/23] s390: Introduce Start Arm Execution instruction Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 16/23] KVM: s390: arm64: Introduce host definitions Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 17/23] s390/hwcaps: Report SAE support as hwcap Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 18/23] KVM: s390: Add basic arm64 kvm module Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 19/23] KVM: s390: arm64: Implement required functions Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 20/23] KVM: s390: arm64: Implement vm/vcpu create destroy Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 21/23] KVM: s390: arm64: Implement vCPU IOCTLs Steffen Eiden
2026-09-03 13:27   ` Janosch Frank
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 22/23] KVM: s390: arm64: Implement basic page fault handler Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:48 ` [PATCH v7 23/23] KVM: s390: arm64: Add KVM_S390_ARM64 Kconfig and Makefile Steffen Eiden
2026-09-02 16:20   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-03  8:38     ` Steffen Eiden
2026-09-03 14:43       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-03 15:43         ` Steffen Eiden
2026-09-03 16:33           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-03 16:41             ` Paolo Bonzini

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