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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Leonardo Bras <leo.bras@arm.com>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>,
	Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] arm64: clear_page[s] using memset
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2026 17:14:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <arP619hd9Rx8Vlrx@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqq7oZzutLP82WYB@LeoBrasDK>

On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 04:54:09PM +0100, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 04:28:51PM +0100, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 12:03:56PM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
> > > There is no need to try to second-guess the compiler when
> > > clearing memory. Just call memset() like everyone else.
> > > 
> > > Since memset() already has an architecture-local MOPS
> > > optimization, we do not need to do anything else to preserve
> > > the MOPS optimization.
> > > 
> > > While at it, implement the shorthand for directly calling
> > > the new prototype clear_pages() for larger page chunks.
> > > 
> > > No performance regressions can be seen, the fastpath
> > > benchmarks differences are in the noise.
> > > 
> > > Usama Anjum tested next-20260821 with one warm-up and three repeats
> > > in four sessions, for a total of 12 measured runs. The commands were:
> > > 
> > >   perf bench mem memset -k 1GB -f default -s 16GB
> > >   perf bench mem mmap -p 1GB -f demand -s 32GB -l 5
> > >   perf bench mem mmap -p 4KB -f demand -s 32GB -l 5
> > > 
> > > The results were:
> > > 
> > > aws-m7g.metal:
> > >   Benchmark    Base bytes/sec   Change with patch
> > >   memset 1GB   63932542232.12                1.92%
> > >   mmap 1GB     63272579168.03               -0.57%
> > >   mmap 4KB     49692830849.48               -1.11%
> > > 
> > > cesw-aarch64-ampereone-1s-a192-32x:
> > >   Benchmark    Base bytes/sec   Change with patch
> > >   memset 1GB   33895562998.71                0.25%
> > >   mmap 1GB     34338454210.17                1.16%
> > >   mmap 4KB     25687107580.90               -0.85%
[...]
> > Looking on that, I see that the memset() implementation uses setp, setm, 
> > sete, while the clear_page()'s uses setpn, setmn, setn for the case with 
> > MOPS. But then, reading into the docs, the instructions seem pretty much 
> > the same thing. 
[...]
> Oh, I browsed a bit here, and IIUC none of the tested machines have 
> FEAT_MOPS, is that right?
> 
> If that's the case, the tests are exactly to what is different between 
> patched and current versions. There should be no impact on MOPS version as 
> the instructions are basically the same.

Logically, yes, they are the same. From a performance perspective, there
may be a difference between the temporal and non-temporal variants,
depending on the usage.

I think it would be good to run the benchmarks with the current
implementation without DC ZVA. I don't think we have an easy way to do
this on the command line, so we can simply hard-code the DZP=1 check and
fall back to the STP or STNP in both cases.

Otherwise I'm fine with the patch as well, good clean-up.

-- 
Catalin


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-23 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-16 10:03 [PATCH v2] arm64: clear_page[s] using memset Linus Walleij
2026-09-16 15:28 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-09-16 15:54   ` Leonardo Bras
2026-09-23 16:14     ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2026-10-08 13:30       ` Muhammad Usama Anjum

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